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<p>Thanks guys and sorry for the late reply. I THOUGHT I had things set up that I would get email notifications when there were any responses to my post but apparently I do not.<br /><br />Anyway, Michael, thanks.<br> John, just one monitor it is a calibrated Nec Multisync Pa 242W. I'm using the sRGB settings right now as 90% of the work that I do is destined for the web only.<br /><br />Jeff,..thanks.<br /><br />Kent,............THANK YOU ! ...at least I know that I'm not crazy here. Well, not about this issue anyway. : -) So have you ever figured out a way around this issue when it happens to you?<br /><br />Rodney,.....thanks for the links. I will try them out.<br /><br /><br />OK, SO, if I find out that any particular browser is NOT color managed, what can one do to the image so that the color shift does not happen? Is there a way of stripping all ICC profiles from the image? If so, how would I go about doing that and would that help matters with non-color managed browsers?<br /><br />THANKS !</p>

<p>Hi Michael,<br /><br />Thanks for your response.<br /><br />As I mentioned in my first post, I'm using Chrome but the same color shift happens when I open it with Internet Explorer.<br /><br />So, if <strong>you</strong> open the image in Photoshop <strong>AND</strong> open the image up with a browser, and then minimize the Photoshop window and the browser window and put those two minimized windows side by side, as I did in my experiment, the images look exactly the same to you and the browser version is not significantly more red than the Photoshop version????<br /><br />THANKS !<br /><br /><br /></p>

<p>I have an image, (which I have distorted for the client's privacy), which takes on a color shift when viewed from within a browser. I've been working with PS for many, many years so I am aware of the usual pitfalls with browser color shifts when the image has an ICC color profile OTHER than sRGB but that is not the case in this situation.<br /> Image is sRGB. Work space in PS is sRGB and yet in a browser, the image is more saturated, particularly in the reds and not in a good way. Just so we don't get off track, I'm not asking for opinions on what color is more correct. My only concern at this point is why there is such a significant difference when EVERYTHING is sRGB. I always use Chrome for my browser but I tested it with IE and it does the exact same thing.<br /> Here is a screen grab of the browser rendition right next to the PS rendering of the same image.............<br /> <br /><br />https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public?preview=Browser-PS-Comparison.jpg<br /> <br /> Here is the actual file. <br /> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53017924/Color%20Shift%20Problem.jpg <br /><br />Please download the file and try this for yourself in PS, (using an sRGB workspace), then compare how it looks in either Chrome or IE. See if you experience the same color shift and tell me if you have any idea why this is happening.<br /> I don't remember ever having this problem before unless of course the file had an ICC color profile other than sRGB.<br /> This is particularly important to me because at least 75% of the freelance editing that I do is for the web as opposed to print.<br /> Thanks ahead of time for anyone who tries to figure this out.</p>

<p>Hi Kent,<br> Thanks very much for your input. I will re-measure and see what I come up with.<br> Yes, you're right, this has nothing to do with the client whatsoever. They are not aware of my attempts to get my View/Print Size to give me the right measurements on my screen. This is strictly about me and my very slight case of OCD trying to make things RIGHT on my end. This hasn't mattered for YEARS. Now that I know about the possibility of making it correct, well, I'm going to do it or die trying.<br /><br />OK, before ending this message, I just remeasured and YOUR RIGHT ! Not sure how I measured wrong, (other than the fact that I NEVER let anything touch my screen so it makes it kind of hard to measure while basically holding the ruler in the air right NEXT to the screen). <br /><br />I've put in the new numbers in for the screen resolution and now everything is measuring PERFECTLY. You have made my week ! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!<br /><br /><br /></p>

<p>Don't know if this helps anybody but I just experimented making different size blank documents, hitting View-Print Size and then measuring.<br> If I make square images, the aspect ratio is correct but the image consistently measures .25 inches to long in both dimensions.<br /><br />If I make a blank document the same size as the original image that I started experimenting with, which is 12.25 inches wide and 9.25 inches high, it is still measuring .5 inches too wide and .25 inches too short.</p>

<p>Hi Charles,<br> I've never heard of such a thing. How would I know one way or the other.<br> By the way, this is a professional Nec PA242W</p> <p>Thanks !</p>

<p>Ray,<br> Thanks. At least I know the image is the right size. Now, does anyone know what I've done wrong that makes the image on MY screen measure 12 inches wide and 9.5 inches high. Not only is this off from what it should be but the aspect ratio isn't even correct.<br> Thanks !<br> Randy</p>

<p>First of all, Here is the image that I will be using as the test image for this exercise. <br> <a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53017924/Print%20Size%20Image%20Test.jpg">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53017924/Print%20Size%20Image%20Test.jpg</a><br> (I filled the image with black because it is for a book that will not be published for about a month yet.)<br> Here is a document file that contains all of my words below, along with screen grabs that help to explain things better.<br> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53017924/View%20Print%20Size.docx<br> <br /> <br /> I wanted to make “view/print size” actually work in Photoshop. I found the following article on the subject.<br> <a href="http://www.photoshopessentials.com/essentials/print-size/">http://www.photoshopessentials.com/essentials/print-size/</a><br> To make a long story short, the formula is to find what your screen resolution is set to, (hopefully it is set to your native resolution). For me, that’s 1920 x 1200 pixels. Next measure the distance in inches across your monitor. For me that’s 20 inches.<br> Divide the width in pixels by the inches across your screen. 1920 divided by 20 equals 96. So, the real PPI of my screen in 96.<br> Now go into Photoshop’s Edit/Preferences/Units and Rulers and put 96 into the screen resolution box.</p> <p>At this point, when using View/Print size, the image on screen should measure the exact same as the print size.<br> OK, so in MY case. I did all of the above, (actually I’ve done all of the above three times at this point), and here are my results. I’m looking at an image that I had edited for a client. The client’s wishes were for the image to be 12.25 inches wide and 9.25 inches high and at a resolution of 325. That is all but exactly what Photoshop is showing the image size to be.</p> <p> and yet, when I try out View/Print size, the image on my screen measures 12 inches wide and 9.5 inches high. So not only is the measurement off, but the aspect ratio isn’t even correct !<br> Just in case some of you have noticed that when I put 96 into the screen resolution, I left the PRINT resolution at 300, well, I experimented with putting 325 in there and that made zero difference in how the image measured on my screen.<br /> <br /> Can anyone figure out why this has not worked correctly to make Image/Screen Size render an image on my screen that measures the print size correctly? Not only THAT but the aspect ratio isn’t even correct!</p>

<p>Couldn't get that to work. Anybody else have any ideas?</p>

<p>I cannot try for myself, but wouldn't using the eyedropper tool on the eyes work to add the blue to the color palette?<br> <br> Well worth a try. Thanks.</p>

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<p>Hey there,</p> <p>I'm trying to make a two frame animation for the attached two images via save for web. When I try, I lose the blue eyes.<br /><br />I've never put much study into the controls on the save for web interface. Is there something that I'm missing?<br /><br />Thanks,<br> Randy</p> <p> </p><div></div>

<p>Richard,<br> Here you go. Does this tell you anything?</p> <p>Thanks !</p><div></div>

<p>Eric,<br> Sorry I haven't answered about Memtest. I've gone to the site and read it a few times and it seems fairly complicated. I would need to wait until my PC guys was here to do it.</p> <p>Richard,<br> I will provide that info for you later this evening.<br /><br />Thanks</p>

<p>OK, good news is that I got real brave and WENT FOR IT !<br /><br />First time I tried, all I did was change the setting from XMP disabled to XMP Profile #1, "the only choice given in the dropdown window other than disabled." Then I used save setting and exit or however it was worded. It restarted itself and before windows opened, I got a screen telling me that "Over Clocking Failed" and it directed me to go into the bios.<br> <br /> On the second try, I thought that maybe for XMP profile change to take effect, I also needed to change the performance setting from normal to optimal performance which I did. This time the changed Profile DID take effect and the sytem rebooted as normal.<br> <br /> Bad news? It made absolutely ZERO difference in the speed of the PC. I immediately did the test we've been using all along, that is pullling up that one image and hitting filter-liquefy. It took 10 seconds for the image to fullly load within the liquefy filter.<br /><br />For this reason, I went back into the Bios and changed things back to the way they were originally.<br /> Next experiment for another day will be to download the trial version of Photoshop CC and see if that makes a difference.</p>

<p>OK so if I get brave enough to go back in and switch XMP from "Disabled" to Profile #1,( which appeared to be the only other option), is that a safe and worth while experiement? Will everything else that needs changing like voltages etc. take care of themselves automatically?</p> <p>Thanks !</p> <p>Randy</p>

<p>Hello folks. It's update time.</p> <p>I started reading chapter 3 of the manual and the attached screen grab was enough warning to keep me from making ANY chnages on my own but I DID get brave enough to enter the PC in safe mode and look around in the UEFI Bios Utility. <br> Observations while in there:<br> I am on Bios Version 1004.<br> XMP was "Disabled" and the only other choice was "Profile #1".<br> Under easy system tuning I was on "Normal". The only other choice was "Asus Optimal". If you choose Asus Optimal, it shows you a red colored clock that is physically running obviously having something to do with over clocking.<br> It showed all of my memory.</p> <p>I know at some point, I remember my PC guy, for some reason or another mentioning that he would not be over clocking. I don't remember why.<br /><br />When I talk to him next, I will at least be asking him about the XMP mode because it appears to me that this is almost an automatic and safe way to get the most out of your ram without REALLY overclocking in the traditional sense. Am I right about that?<br> 60 years old two days ago and my very first time opening a PC in safe mode. Aren't I a big boy now? : -)</p> <p> </p><div></div>

<p>Thanks guys.</p> <p>So Richard, you're saying that everything looks OK according to the the CPU-Z photos?</p> <p>Also, before I move that switch, please tell me exactly what you are hoping that might be accomplished by my doing so AND, if I move the switch and it does not improve anything and then I move it back, will everything be as it was in the first place or will I have screwed something up at that point?</p> <p>Also, have you taken notice that all of the images for the individual slots already state, "Ext. XMP 2"</p> <p>Thanks !</p> <p>Randy</p>

<p>Hello Guys,<br> I know it probably seems silly to folks like yourself that are so knowledgeable in this area but I wouldn't be comfortable going into the bios.</p> <p>I will show this to my PC builder though. <br> Eric,<br> Where is the second screen grab from?<br> Again, I'm sure it seems basic to you but please tell me how I would know that the correct setting should be 3004.7 ?<br /><br /><br />Thanks,<br> Randy</p>

<p>Hi Eric,<br> I couldn't figure out how to find the EZ Mode screen but I did find this free software that looks at all aspects of the system.</p> <p>Does this tell you what you want to know. I would appear to me that it is showing quad channel access but I'm not sure.</p><div></div>

<p>Eric,<br> Yes, bios is up to date.</p> <p>I do not know what EZ Mode is and when I put it into Google, I find only stuff about mobile devices and gaming.</p>

<p>Update to all of those who are still following along.</p> <p>I discussed the memory placement with my PC builder. He told me that he had originally placed the memory like the manual suggested and the system only picked up 8 of the 16 GBs of memory. So, his first experiment was to place the memory as he has it now, all right next to each other. This worked and the system correctly picked up all 16 GB of the memory.<br /><br />Wondering why this would be, I called Asus tech support. I was only about three quarters of the way through my story when the technician said, "What the builder did is correct. It will only work if they are placed the way that he placed them. Our manual in wrong and we have not updated it as of yet. I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you."<br /><br />So, this information plus the fact that the AHCI setting is correct has me trusting my guy as much as I did in the first place. All much a do about nothing. I can only assume that the ONE area where it seemed a bit slow, that is waiting for the picture to come up after hitting filter/liquefy, will get faster once I move on to Photoshop CC.<br /><br />Thanks for all of your concern an help but it appears all things are as they should be.</p>

<p>OK, so, we're REAL clear on improper memory placement. <br> Now, onto the AHCI setting....................<br> Richard or anyone else that understands, I did a search on how to find out if the bios is set to AHCI. Does the following two screen grabs that I have placed right next to each other show you that things are set up correctly in regard to AHCI? It would appear that way to me but obviously I'm not sure. <br> THANKS !</p><div></div>