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<p>Update: The elves or the system itself seems to deleted all the double/triple threads, but they are still there in the Rust - No Words thread.<br>

Cheers, anthea :)</p>

<p>Hi Josh<br>

Great idea I think - one thing though that comes to mind - I think that the city/state that the event is taking place in should appear in the list view. Ok, I'm way over in Australia, but I'm hoping that us Aussie's on PN will add some events, but i would only check the details if it was feasable for me to get to the event, Australia is a huge country like America, so if someone from one state saw an event in the list, then clicked for more details and saw that it was too far away or whatever, then it would have saved time if the city/state was in the description or as an extra category that appears in list view.<br>

I hope that suggestions make sense, just a thought! Some events are of course worth travelling for, but I still think it might be convenient to see where in the world it is as well as a description of the event.<br>

Cheers, Anthea :)</p>

<p>Hi<br>

I just checked the unfied forum view and saw that some of the newest threads and posts within the Rust - No Words thread have doubled or tripled up. Three versions of the same thread and then in No Words, three posts of the same shot from two different posters!<br>

I had my eyes checked recently so I know they are not the problem ;)<br>

Any one else see this?<br>

I will attach a screen shot that i copied and pasted into PS then saved as a JPEG so folks can see the issue.<br>

Cheers, Anthea :)</p><div></div>

<p >11: Not sure what number we’re up to, but eleven might do for now. Sorry I haven’t chimed in until now, I have been ruminating on this though….and critiquing….so anyway, here are my thoughts. </p>

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<p >If you have time, first look at that person’s gallery and bio to get a feel for the level/areas of interest that the photog who posted the shot has. Then go back to the image and you may see it in more of a context of the photog’s overall work. Sometimes their gallery will also give you an indication of what, if any, editing/digital alterations they may use. (IMHO it is pointless to suggest they clone out something or use masks or similar or even tweak the contrast using curves if they don’t appear to use Photoshop or whatever.) </p>

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<p >Start with what grabs you about the shot, preferably something on a positive note – or at least not negative – your impressions, what you like, what feelings it evokes, what you like about the colours or composition or even technique (high key /low key / HDR etc., if you know about it) general stuff like that. Then move to more specific things that could (in your humble opinion) help to improve the shot, if possible. For example, removal of a distraction, composition changes that could have improved the shot, and/or other suggestions and points that could help the photog in future shots. Then finish with another positive, and thank the person for sharing the photo with the community. (Granted, it is a bit formulaic but it seems to work, based on the feedback I received from photog’s I have commented on to date and based on my current level of understanding) </p>

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<p >Having said that, I completely agree with Phylo’s suggestions as below: </p>

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<p ><em >Phylo: Perhaps a critique can be separated into the 3 levels also written about in Stephen Shore's The Nature of Photographs : The Physical Level (grain, color, b&w, contrast) - The Depictive Level the choice of the subject (the ' frame') that is photographed and in which way (vantage point, field of focus) and The Mental Level – which may be coincident with the depictive level - what the picture is showing - but rather then mirroring it, " it elaborates, refines, and embellishes our perceptions of the depictive ". " The mental level of a photograph provides a framework for the mental image we construct of (and for) the picture." (Shore) So I think the spiritual / emotive / intangible / ... are the result of what happens on the mental level (one image might evoke a strong spiritual thought or feeling, while another might evoke something else entirely).</em></p>

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<p ><em >One could chose which level to critique on, or critique them all individually. The photographer could even ask on what level he / she would prefer a critique or discussion to happen primarily. In a way the 3 levels aren't that opposite to the aesthetics / originality terms, I don't think they are more complicated, but the levels dig deeper to the actual structure or meaning of an image instead of simply sticking a label on the surface of it. </em></p>

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<p >I believe I could ‘grow’ into this way of commenting. Changing up a gear, so to speak. </p>

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<p >I also think that all the other suggestions are valid too and should definitely be included in the guidleines…</p>

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<p >In the end, perhaps if there was a list (not the laundry kind, but of possibilities) that each of us could choose from – consider – try out – and that would also allow for a more individual’s approach, (a little from column A, a little from column B as my kids would say) which would lead to feeling more comfortable about the whole critiquing business, the we could “stop complaining and do something about critiques!”.</p>

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<p >Just my thoughts on the matter…..(….BTW you rock, Fred! I agree with Greg Thomas; you’d make an excellent art/photography teacher….) Cheers, Anthea :)</p>

<p>Hmmm, I believe that this is how you do it. First you write your post in the 'contribute an answer' post as per usual, then hit submit etc., when you have confirmed your post, another box comes up asking if you want to upload an image to go with your post. That's where you upload the image to go with the post. I think there are other ways, but that one is the simple and easiest, I think.<br>

Hope that helps! Cheers, anthea :)</p>