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<p><a href=" src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7753/17384931205_2c034559e4_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="683" /></a><br> This is how the Tokina 20-35mm f/2.8 looks when mounted with the LA-EA4 adapter that converts Sony A mount to Sony E mount and I have used the combination on Sony A7. Pictures are good but the combo or even the lens alone is quite heavy. Build is excellent. Fringing can be seen especially on corners in both the Tamron and Tokina. The wider range is a sounding plus for the Tamron. <br> <br /> <a href=" src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8767/17203008007_e19a611548_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="683" /></a><br> 28mm, f/3.5, iso 1600, Tokina 20-35 and Sony A7<br> <br /><br /><br> <a href=" src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7764/17410068061_c9745af579_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="683" /></a><br> 22mm, f/5.6, iso 2500, Tokina 20-35mm f/2.8, Sony A7<br /><br /><br /><br> Both the Tamron 17-35 f/2.8-4.0 and Tokina 20-35 f/2.8 are viable choices for the Pentax FF. I got both under $250 in decent 9 out of 10 conditions. They probably won't match the same class as in Tamron 15-30mm f/2.8 or Pentax latest D-FA 15-30mm f/2.8 but they are surely the good alternatives to consider for K-1. </p>

<blockquote> <p>Great images, every one of them, Hin!</p> </blockquote> <p>Thank you! I am surprised with the results. I got this lens not knowing what I've got. I later read somewhere that Mike Johnson likes this lens and mentioned it as one of his favorites on his Online Photographer. I can't find the link to confirm and I will share it if my search finds it. I have never used this on FF so my liking may differ in the FF view. On aps-c, one will think that it is not wide enough to cover a good range. It works out well for me as 17mm is wide enough for most of my use in visiting places like <a href="http://www.exploratorium.edu/">Exploratorium</a> in San Francisco. <br /><br />After failing to find the same lens on Sony A-mount, I settle for a similar lens with Tokina atx 20-35mm f/2.8. The Tokina is a much heavier lens with better build. When I use the Tokina on my Sony A7 with a LA-EA4 adapter, the whole combo became a chore in the shooting because of much heavier weight, and I can't reproduce the pictures that I made with Tamron 17-35mm on Pentax K-5. The Tokina is definitely a faster and likely a better built lens but my liking is on the lighter Tamron zoom. </p>

<p>@Patrick, love it....</p>

<p><a href=" src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7032/6426107321_bfd4700978_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="614" /></a><br> Pentax Auto 110 lenses next to Sony E 18-55 zoom<br />24mm f/2.8, Pan focus 18mm f/2.8 next to E 18-55 zoom</p> <p>And the Pentax Auto 110 Pan focus 18mm f/2.8 has no manual focus ring as it snaps everything into focus from 6 ft to infinity, a great tool on street shooting where I can focus on framing.</p> <p><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6426128611_b3589c8713_z.jpg" alt="" /></p> <p><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6426132013_fe871b633f_z.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="425" /></p> <p><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/6426120967_539e425eee_z.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="425" /></p>

<p>A nut case over small size brings me to APS-C with Pentax Auto 110</p> <p><a href="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6463314953_bf1cc4e2cc_z.jpg"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/6464356863_9499a59f33_z.jpg" alt="" width="425" height="640" /></a></p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/hin_man/sets/72157628298824973/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7174/6464360453_6cedf4b211_z.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="384" /></a></p> <p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/hin_man/sets/72157628298824973/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7021/6464373961_5241d7b4ed_z.jpg" alt="" width="640" height="426" /></a></p> <p>Shot with Pentax Auto 110 70mm f/2.8 wide open with NEX 5N. The Pentax Auto 110 to Sony E adapter will only shoot the lens wide open, I did build several disc blades with an aperture opening mimicking f/5.6 and f/8.0 shooting. It is a chore to change aperture and hence I still use them as 'specialty fun lens' on occasions for a nostalgic shooting especially at night when wide-open is what I would have used hand-held. </p>

<p>Shot with lens turbo and Super-Takumar 50mmm f/1.8. It is one of my favorite shot with NEX 5N, I may have shown it before</p> <p><a href=" src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2876/9688126210_1b7456058d_b.jpg" alt="" width="680" height="1024" /></a></p> <p>It is one of those things when I have a smaller and lighter camera, I tend to enjoy more in bringing it out for shooting. I even carry my A6000 with kit zoom on occasion with a<em><strong> Crumpler 2 million bag</strong></em>. My favorite 1-lens to bring are as follows:</p> <ul> <li>kit zoom 16-50 for traveling and compact size</li> <li>voiglander 40mm f/1.4 or Fujian 35mm f/1.7 -- night time, indoor, bokeh and art seeking</li> <li>Sigma 30mm f/2.8 or 19mm f/2.8 -- snapshot with good sharpness, will use the 19mm for wider view. In general, I pick the 30mm more</li> <li>Sony E 50mm f/1.8 or Sigma 60mm f/2.8 -- for portraits and street tele shooting, will pick the E 50mm for night time shooting over Sigma</li> </ul>

<p>Not a great photo but I found this when I look for my bag photo. It was shot with Super-Takumar 50mm f/4.0 macro which is 1:2 close up magnification.</p> <p><a href=" src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2920/14326805270_c160f972f0_b.jpg" alt="" width="680" height="1024" /></a></p>

<p>@Charles, yes, the Air Plane mode is in the WiFi setting. It will save some battery when it is set to be On, default is Off. I have to remember to turn it back to Off when I want to use the Smart Remote App or 'Send pictures through WiFi' that needs this Air Plane mode to be off.</p> <p>I was out skiing over the weekend and I brought three lenses with A6000 with the Sony 16-50 kit zoom, Voiglander 40mm f/1.4 and Sigma 60mm f/2.8 along with my Sony action camera with HDR-AS100VR. I end up shooting still and video with mostly the action camera but I did use the Sony A6000 with Voiglander 40mm for a few snapshots -- it is one of the Leica M mount that is really tiny like the FA 43mm limited. Bokeh and color is outstanding on this prime. I don't shy away from bringing the kit zoom as its compact size fits my bag for small and lighter gear in field use.</p> <p><a href=" src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5509/14329330510_8b17a35d99_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="680" /></a></p> <p>This LowePro Event Messenger 100 bag fits NEX 5N perfectly but it still works quite good for the A6000. I can fit in 2 separate lenses and one body mounted with 3rd lens and with plenty spaces and pocket for accessories. It is a tiny bag that none of my Pentax film and digital bodies can fit in. <br /><br /><br />Next to the bag is a small m42 lens with Super-Takumar 28mm f/3.5 mounted on a Zhongyi Lens Turbo v1 that works to offset the crop factor with 0.71 factor and this adapter adds about 1 stop of light at the expense of lesser corner sharpness, someone claim the center to be sharper. You can read up on the adapter, I like the view on my 35mm or 28mm when I use them with a lens turbo adapter. The lens turbo has its flaws. The v1 has a bug when I shoot into a strong light source, there is a occasional showing of purple flare coming off from sensor reflection likely triggered with the lens element added by the Lens Turbo adapter. Other than that, it is a nice gadget for aps-c use. The other costlier adapter is the Speed-booster from Metabones.</p>

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<p>One of the drawback in having multiple systems is my planning on gear purchase and how I handle my emotions when I find myself either in the buying spree or in the stage of cage-fight to control my excess of gear or to diminish my guilty feeling of indulging myself with multiple systems and formats. A word of advice in buying gear is not to think twice but triple in the planning. Sometime it is okay to overlap in both systems and sometime it is not. And buying prime and zoom make it more complicated in decision-making as you may end up with gear pulling your legs every time you gather your toys/tool before leaving for the trip/journey with your beloved family that you treasure the most and not the tool that you pick for photo opportunity.</p> <p><a href=" src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2815/11375456563_c9b2072eb3_c.jpg" alt="" width="800" height="531" /></a><br> Size is not necessary an advantage once you add on adapter for dSLR type of lenses. What is on the left is a Sony A7 with LA-EA4 adapter and a cheap Minolta AF 50mm f/1.8 in the $50 range. Size will be an advantage when you go with Leica-M, C-mount, Contax G mount, Konica AR, Pentax Auto 110 (yes on that and they do work wide open in aps-c), some M42 especially the Super-Tak small lenses as in 28 f/3.5, 35 f/3.5, 105 f/2.8, 50 f/1.8,1.4 etc.</p> <p><img src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5532/11317080563_b450ab4443_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="681" /><br> Sony FE 35mm f/2.8 Zeiss, I won't recommend this lens because of the high cost but I will highly recommend the FE 55mm f/1.8 Zeiss.</p> <p><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8183/8386408633_d2e326678a_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="680" /><br> Sigma 30mm f/2.8 (1st version) gets my most use on A6000 and NEX 5N on Sony aps-c platform</p> <p><a href=" src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2936/14353907220_dd0db153c2_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="675" /></a></p> <p>This bugger is the reason that I use much less on Pentax DA 35 f/2.8. </p>

<p>This is how it looks with 100mm WR macro<br /> <img src="http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g192/hinioman/4sale_2016/20160126-DSC00217_1.jpg" alt="" width="800" height="533" /><br /> <br />The lens on right is the Contax G 90mm f/2.8 made by Zeiss. It is a super-sweet lens that is on-a-budget type of lens and it is the smallest 90mm that I have used. I sold it when I got the Pentax 100mm macro as I try to consolidate and the Pentax 100 is wonderful for macro and casual tele shooting. Had Pentax put in a focus limiter and aperture ring on the 100mm, it would be screaming buy for everyone especially for its size, WR and unique Pentax limited solid metal build and design.</p> <p><img src="http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g192/hinioman/4sale_2016/20160222-DSC00353.jpg" alt="" width="800" height="546" /><br /> I am getting rid of FA 35 and likely DA 35 as I am in the cycle of gear consolidation. Having more is a chore for me. I have sold 9+ items and 1 body this year and so far I got 1 single lens with Pentax 100 WR macro. The DA 35 used to be my go-to lens on Pentax but I have FA 31 and I am contemplating of having 1 lens in 31-35 focal range. I am not firm yet as the DA 35 can do things with close up that the FA 31 can't do well.</p>

<p>This is not a 'highly recommended' adapter from me but this one costs a bit more than your KA to Sony E adapter. This particular adapter offers a step-less aperture control. This is not the vendor that I bought my copy but it is similar <br /><br /><br /> <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/330748733854">http://www.ebay.com/itm/330748733854</a></p> <p>The hard-to-understand poor design issue on this adapter is the missing label to engage the adapter on fully open or stopped-down mode. And it takes a while to remember the setting to switch between DA and FA type of lenses. When I mount a FA lens with an aperture ring, I need to engage the adapter on one side so that you can actually stop down with the aperture ring. It is not a biggie but something that I want you to be aware of. You will have the same issue with your current copy of DA to Sony E mount. When the adapter is used with FA type of lenses, I need to turn the silver ring counter-clockwise to one end so that I can stop down the lens with aperture ring. If the adapter is turned clockwise to one end, the aperture will be fully open.</p> <p> </p>

<p>Be inspired with Brian Smith's work and his pretty up-to-date information on Sony landscape<br /> <a href="http://briansmith.com/sony-e-mount-universal-lens-mount/">http://briansmith.com/sony-e-mount-universal-lens-mount/</a></p> <p>And this guide give you a valuable list of lenses to consider<br /> <a href="http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Best-lenses-for-the-Sony-A6000-Primes-and-Zooms">http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Best-lenses-for-the-Sony-A6000-Primes-and-Zooms<br /><br /></a><br /> Whatever you do, please don't be like Hin who buys too many too soon. I always pay my fair share of price in being curious. The end results of your photography may not be better than your K-3. There are many things K-3 excel over the A6000 such as weather sealing, beautiful shutter sound, great ergonomics along with a suite of quality lenses that are not crazily priced. I hate the shutter and highly sensitive shutter in Sony A6000. Not bad in A7 but too sensitive for me on A6000. <br /><br /> What differs most for me is the shooting experience on A6000 that offer compact overall size and lighter weight in traveling light. And traveling light requires your careful selection of lenses. I use my K-5 where I need to shoot like a photog which requires reliable battery life and good SR support. And the Sony A6000 is my go-to camera in weekend excursions or a single-lens type of shooting. I enjoy hiking with A6000 with my Sigma 24mm f/2.8 or my Sigma 19mm f/2.8 or 30mm f/2.8. 1-lens that does it all and don't get in the way on my day-pack. In skiing trip, I find it a chore even to bring my A6000, I use a point & shoot and a action camera for video. And I do use the 16-50 kit-zoom when I need the most compact form factor.<br /><br /><br /> <a href=" src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7744/17579230353_cf42e682bf_b.jpg" alt="" width="683" height="1024" /></a></p> <p><a href=" src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8878/17937540518_1174b2a124_b.jpg" alt="" width="683" height="1024" /></a></p> <p><a href=" src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8878/18012588788_6322d47908_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="1024" /></a><br /> All shot with Sigma super-wide II 24mm f/2.8 and Sony A6000.</p>

<p>If you are tight on budget, I recommend Tamron 17-35mm f/2.8-4.0. It is not likely in the same league as Pentax DF-A 15-30mm f/2.8 but a wide zoom lens that is FF and proves itself on my Pentax K-5<br /><br /><a href=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><img src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2817/10774768114_edc367ac16_b.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><a href=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wall With Glasses & Water</a> <br />by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/hin_man/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hin Man</a>, on Flickr <br /><br /><br /><a href=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><img src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2838/10774938863_164c805678_b.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><a href=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Exploratorium Entrance</a> <br />by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/hin_man/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hin Man</a>, on Flickr<br /><br /><br /><a href=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><img src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5493/10814243933_f71fec3d10_b.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><a href=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">IMGP7689</a> <br />by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/hin_man/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hin Man</a>, on Flickr<br /><br /><br /><a href=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7409/11002492156_906ac93662_b.jpg" alt="" border="0" /><br /></a><a href=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Meet Up</a> <br />by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/hin_man/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hin Man</a>, on Flickr<br /><br /><br /><a href=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><img src="https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7375/11001623104_18ef895e78_b.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><a href=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tree Age</a> <br />by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/hin_man/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hin Man</a>, on Flickr<br /><br /><br /><a href="https://flic.kr/p/hq8i2f" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><img src="https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3772/10774727236_ff684f7822_b.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><a href="https://flic.kr/p/hq8i2f" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Two Friends</a> <br />by <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/hin_man/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hin Man</a>, on Flickr<br /><br /><br />It is a dependable and consistent lens that I love even in aps-c use. It is not common lens that you find on eBay but if you are on tight budget and don't mind having a 'follow interest' on ebay, this one should come <strong><em>in the range of $175 to $275.</em></strong><br /><br /><br /></p>

<p><a href=" src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8635/16321986607_12372b3a60_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="683" /></a><br> FE 50mm f/1.8 @ f/2.0, iso 320, sony A6000</p> <p><a href=" src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8643/15964697373_9c36a04f9b_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="683" /></a><br> Sigma 30mm f/2.8 @ f/3.2, iso 500, Sony A6000<br> <br /><br /><a href=" src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8611/16638891585_f38f10732f_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="1024" /></a><br> Sony E 50mm f/1.8, @f/3.5, iso 640, sony A6000</p> <p> </p>

<p>@Steve, really surprised that you act so fast in the decision. And congratulation. Few things that can help you with the good experience with the A6000 with lighter weight, compact, 179 PDAF points and 25 CDAF focal points that works quite good on AF-C and tracking, eye-AF, WiFi, few free impressive apps especially the smart remote with iPhone or Android, good enough sensor for most usage especially for traveling light. <br /><br />There are quirks that you need to get informed and work around in the following areas:</p> <ol> <li>Poor battery life -- get a set of external battery charger and have a minimum set of 2-4 extra batteries. In each outing, I carry an average of 2+ extra batteries.</li> <li>Have Airplane mode turned ON to save battery juice</li> <li>Turn off the annoying and pretty useless AF illuminating light</li> <li>poor ergonomics when a heavier lens over 85mm focal length is mounted. Please get a A6000 3-rd party L-bracket</li> <li>Poor AF in low light shooting, try AF-C and have 'wide' setting</li> <li>Poor MF -- no that is not possible, you have to train yourself on the use of magnified view and have the right setup with peek focusing with color intensity.</li> <li>Poor distortion on 16-50 especially on the wide end, shoot jpg to get quicky fix or shoot raw learn to correct in your favorite processor</li> <li>No weather sealing, buy yourself a rain proof bag in < $25 dollar range and use common sense to shoot in rain</li> <li>Pentax DA lens without aperture ring, buy yourself a good and solid adapter with aperture control. I use a $90 Kipon Pentax KA to Sony E adapter. The aperture control is step-less.</li> <li>Not a FF, learn and equip yourself with a Lens Turbo version I adapter, all of your full frame lenses adds 1+ stop of light and you get back very close to the original FF field of view.<br /><br /></li> <li>Not enough buttons -- make sure you customize the C1, C2 and C3 along with 10 to 12 shortcuts on Fn menu.<br /><br /></li> </ol> <p>Okay, some pictures to show the talked items<br /> <a href=" src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8664/16026595853_82d5f6087e_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="678" /></a><br /> A L-bracket for Sony A7, I have a similar 3rd party L-bracket that works with A6000. The bracket adds solid build feeling to the combo and you feel safer with the ruggedness added by the bracket. Cost is < $15 at most<br /><br />The lens mounted above with A7 is the Sony FE 55mm f/1.8 Zeiss lens and it is one of the best 55mm that I have used. Color pops and image quality sits above my very positive experience with Pentax limited.</p> <p><a href=" src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8587/16035317423_2d48436819_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="681" /></a><br /> Sony E 50mm f/1.8, this lens is slower in AF than other lens but a great lens in E-mount with OSS. This is my low light shooting lens. Bokeh and color are quite good</p> <p><a href=" src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1561/25500405225_7d2b2db871_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="768" /></a><br /> Fujian 35mm f/1.7 in c-mount in silver chrome color on right and Fujion 75mm f/1.8 also in c-mount. The thin C-mount to E-mount adapter are both mounted on bottom of the two lenses above.</p> <p>If you need a fast 35mm in MF, I highly recommend the Fujian 35mm. The catch is in getting the right c-mount adapter that don't turns the lens upside down. You can actually adjust the screw on the bottom of the lens to line up properly with a C-mount adapter. I mount each of my 2 c-mount with an individual adapter and I adjust the mount to line up so that each is ready to go like a converted E-mount.</p> <p> </p>

<p><a href=" src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5759/22430258623_e9db5260b3_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="706" /></a><br> Sony A6000 with 16-50mm kit zoom @19mm, f/5.6 and iso 2500, flash tilted up for diffused flash light. I usually shoot in jpg on A6000 and raw on A7. With jpg, all the distortion correction kicks in and I don't need to sweat as much in the post processing. And my use of jpg and raw also depend on the lens that I use. With Kit zoom, that is a default jpg setting for me as the jpg has the default distortion correction. I need to confirm, but the distortion correction on jpg is set-table as an setting on Sony. And the WiFi and smart camera apps are wonderful once I manage to get the kinks out of its poor user interface. It is great and I feel deprived when I go back to shooting with my older Pentax K-5.</p>

<p><a href=" src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8568/16093418194_58a4ccf1fd_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="683" /></a><br> Sigma 19mm f/2.8 @f/5.6 and iso 1000 and Sony A6000. This is great street shooter that I can rely upon even at f/2.8 as long as the corners are not key as in landscape.</p>

<p><a href=" src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/603/21822906478_d323110c4e_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="644" /></a><br /> Sony A6000 with 16-50 kit zoom in 16mm f/5.6, iso 500 and flash on. I may not have tilted the flash as I am far enough for diffused lighting. It is not the best shots to show the lens but shooting indoor can post challenge even for lens that are 10+ times the cost of the kit lens such as the FE 16-35mm f/4.0 that are in $1345 range. My philosophy for enthusiasts use is to take what you have got within the budget and set the expectations accordingly and work with its sweeter spots. I would have preferred not to use the kit lens on the above shot but rather use it for the previous post where the center at 20mm is sweet while the 16 has distortion and not-so-good-corners to deal with.</p>

<p><a href=" src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/749/22428619794_5786a671e0_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="683" /></a><br> Sony A6000 with 16-50 kit zoom in 20mm f/5.0 and iso2000 and flash is on and I tilt the built-in flash up for more diffused lighting</p>

<p>@Steve, let me clarify on my use with 16-50. It is a love and hate type of lens It is great for its compact size and it is an above average lens. What I don't like about it is on the build, the very awkward W/T zoom ring, and the absence of a lens hood for protection. Image quality is good especially in center. Corners and distortion is not-so-great but it is something that you can expect from a $100 zoom lens. Kind of think of it, if you ask me today to take pentax kit zoom or the sony kit zoom, I would have picked the Sony because of the size but if you ask again for better image quality and build, I would pick the pentax especially those with WR. Does that make sense? <br /> <br />You decision on getting a system comes with a whole suite of lens and not just the kit zoom and there is a lot to consider besides the kit zoom. A new system come with a whole suite of lens and each goes with its pros and cons and compromises are there to be made for sure. And you should also look into other mirrorless systems if compactness is your key criteria. I like the look of Olympus pen-f digital.</p>

<p><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8682/16478224679_a91a7a2216_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="576" /><br> Sigma 19mm f/2.8 and Sony A6000<br> <br /><a href="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8576/16501540067_15294027f8_b.jpg"><img src="https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8576/16501540067_15294027f8_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="232" /></a><br> Sigma 19 and Sony A6000</p>

<p>I dislike the kit zoom with 16-50mm like many others but I keep it because of its pancake like size. The build quality is much to be desired. But it is what it is, a kit zoom. It is good on center sharpness and in good lighting, I won't hesitate to shoot and it is very reasonable in quality. I hate to compare two lenses. If I am asked today if the Sony kit zoom is any better than the Pentax Kit zoom, I can't give you a straight answer. For tiny bit better image quality, I prefer the older kit zoom with 18-55 but that is larger in size.</p> <p><a href=" src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7021/6715710563_45e7caeb9c_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="1024" /></a><br /> Older kit zoom with 18-55 and Sony NEX 5N</p> <p>If you want to go wide and don't want to pay a lot, the Samyang 12 and 14 should be on your radar. The Voiglander has native E-mount wide on 10, 12 and 15 but they are all expensive. The 10-18 is your go-to lens on Sony aps-c world. I don't have the 10-18 but plan to look into Voiglander 15mm f/4.5 v3 or some similar. But the 10-18 f/4.0 will be a good choice if the price comes down a bit or if you can get a used copy around $500 to $600.<br /> <a href=" src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7157/6721187491_a402d7c47f_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="680" /></a><br /> Sony NEX 5N and older kit zoom 18-55</p> <p>I have a Tokina 20-35mm f/2.8 that works on my Sony A7 but that is not wide enough on aps-c. I have the Sony E 16mm f/2.8 along with a 0.75 wide converter. I won't recommend that wide as it is soft on corners. Strangely the pancake wide 16 seem to work better with the 0.75x wide converter</p> <p><a href=" src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1445/25320354966_f8aea6be62_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="819" /></a><br> Sony A6000 plus Sony E 16mm f/2.8 pancake and 0.75x wide converter</p> <p><a href=" src="https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1717/25051010920_a5895a46bf_b.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="680" /></a><br> Sony A6000 plus Sony E 16mm f/2.8 pancake and 0.75x wide converter</p> <p> </p>