roberto_lins

Where did you "hear" that? It'd be very interesting if true.

"Wide open performance is MUCH better than 20/2.8"

 

I disagree! It's a BIT better when wide open. I have the 20 and have

blown up up to 11x14". Could count the grains of sand in the picture! It wasn't wide open though. That said, I also agree that the 20-35 would be most useful.

If you're buying it new, don't forget to take into account how the

IS would be useful for you (which is only available on the 300/4).

Just forwarding the message below to the archives...

 

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Roberto, Eschenmoser is a good place, you can also get darkroom materials at Foto Ganz

(http://www.foto-ganz.ch/index.html). But prices are better at Eschenmoser.

 

-- Richard Srienz, July 30, 2001; 02:01 P.M. Eastern

I have asked a similar question today on the general forum (see below).

Here it goes my small contribution to the archives. Hopefully, more will be added.

 

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Would anybody have a suggestion? All I have found so far was is Eschenmoser. Would anybody know any other

place? It could also be somewhere in the surroundings.

 

BTW, I found one post in the archives without answers, so if you feel like, please could you also post it there? So we

can have a permanent data.

 

Thanks a lot,

 

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Yes, they have a not-so-useful press release in there. Just the marketing bussisness as usual. I didn't try to download the pdfs to see if there was any technical details. Maybe tomorrow, here it's already becoming a bit late... Thanks anyway.

Bob (or anybody else),

 

would you know what's the main (claimed) difference between the new and the old emulsions of the Sensia 200 and 400. I have used two rolls ofcthe old Sensia 400 in the past and although sharpness was pretty decent, color rendition was very poor (for my standards/taste). After

that I didn't want even to try the ISO 200... Would it be time to give it another try...?!

 

Thanks,

"Are they worth buying?" Yes in my opinion. Regarding experience

level is difficult to judge. There's no much about photographic techniques as you'd find in John Shaw's books, for example. It's rather bussiness oriented, i.e., how to make your photos marketable. Useful? Definitely! Original and/or artistic? I wouldn't say so...

I have the 20 f/2.8 and have been happy. I also considered the zoom

initially and sometimes I actually miss it. For my stardards, the

corners are acceptable when the lens is wide open, but not ideal.

However, if you stop down to f/4 it becames great. I choosed the fixed

20 because of less barrel distortions, less prone to flare than the

20-35 and easier to use in low light conditions. I agree with the

previous post, if it's not meant for low light or architecure or if

you plan to use it especially for nature purposes, I'd go for the

zoom.

I don't disagree with Tom and Brian's point-of-view and I think

the others don't, but Dan apparently. However, the question here is about the moral of the photographer Michael Fatali. (Afterwards, this's a nature photography forum). If you did something stupid, you can just be humble and admit it taking the full responsability for your acts. If you did something stupid knowing it's a stupid thing to do, it becomes hard to forgive. To be defensive and arrogant is a very common and disgusting behavior among many of us. Mr. Fatali showed us in his statement he's not an exception. Does he show any decency in this matter? Should he be forgiven...?

[Please, lets count the all ballots by hand in the first place this time...^)]

Mine didn't come with an errata, but I also realized it was likely

switched.

McNary Wildlife Refuge, Burbank, WA State. One can find, white pelicans, great blue heron, canadian geese, malards, owls, and

although not very common, bald eagles among many others species.

http://nwr.mcnary.wa.us/

If it's not too late... I lived in La Jolla for almost a couple of

years, what a great place. For seals I'd go to La Jolla Cove and as

already stressed, don't miss the sunset at the dramatic cliffs of Torrey Pines. If you like architecture, (not really nature!), a sure bet is The Salk Institute on North Torrey Pines Rd. Have a good time.

Hi Chuck,

 

Thanks for your answer. Unfortunately, I got it late and missed the

tram and Soda Springs. However, I had a great time there and will output part of my experience for the records.

 

The place

is indeed spetacular. Based in the Joseph area you have easy access to Eagle Cap and Hells Canyon. It's a very scenic place. I never saw so many deers at once. One can find them everywhere, close to the Lake, in the trails, etc. Some of them allow you to get a couple of feet close. I wasn't aware of the place, so I didn't go prepared for a hard hiking. If somebody reads this thread later and likes hiking/backpacking, that's the place to go. I drove up to Hells Canyon (Oregon side) and could easily see several falcons and eagles. Just pull over your car and wait or use

one of the few trails along the road (from Joseph, take the Hells Canyon Scenic Byway, then go south and explore the area). Hells Canyon in the Idaho side is quite different, it's basically a desertic area and the roads are not very cared, so watch for rocks. The rock wall formations along the Snake River is impressive, but not until you drive for about 10 miles after the park entrance. On the trails watch for rattlesnakes, they are abundant in the area. There's an effort to transform the Hells Canyon into a National Park, but the pratice of hunting and the presence of livestock in the area has made it difficult. It's noteworthy to mention that it's the deepest canyon in the lower 48; even more than the Grand Canyon, but not as impressive though.

 

In short the area is worth to visit, but not just once. If you ever

go there, you'll be there already planning your next trip. You'll most likely need the wilderness pass. Oh... before I forget... pack light and be prepared to hike and you'll extract the most the place has to offer. At the end I spent all my time there and didn't have time to

explore the Blue Mountains, but I don't regret it. There will be a next time...

Hello there,

I moved to the Pacific Northwest recently and enjoyed so far

the diversity offered by this area. I've searched the web and

the forum, however couldn't find any information about these

locations. Would anyone have tips and/or photo opportunities

to share? Thanks a lot,

Hi all,

Would anyone have information about when the bloom will happen

this year? Tips about locations and other opportunities in area

are also wellcome. Many thanks,

Hey all,

 

The mammoth is offering a room with private bathroom for $59 at this

time. I don't know how close they are, but a meeting point could be

arranged...

Hello there,

 

In principle I'm also interested. I just don't know yet if I could

be there at this specific time of the year. I'll check it and let

you know later. BTW Stu, good starting!

Ok, it's a great idea definitely. However, things have to be organized. Everyone is saying where they live and what they want to

do. So what's my proposition? First, contact Bob Atkins and ask him a specific space, IF he agrees, and the forum CAN support it. Supposing so it could be divided by areas, e.g., US: west, cental, east; abroad: Central America, South America, Africa, Europe, Asia and Australia. Once it's done, one can propose or just tell he/she is going there and others could then join he/she/them. I access the forum daily (or almost) and have some experience with web stuff, so if help is needed I volunteer. Starting another discussion I may even think the name of the link based in Rod's subject... what about "Wild Trip"? BTW, Tom

I'm probably moving to Switerland by the end of this year.

Hello Emanuele, I noticed you are in Italy and I wouldn't know how to

compare the prices. So, I'll try to discuss about some possibilities

based in the U$ currency. Although I'm not in position to say anything

about the Kenko extension tube for your Canon 75-300 seems a cheap and

reasonable option. Jacques, what about the magnification? Another

cheap option is the Vivitar 100mm f/3.5 Macro ($120). Its magnification is 1:2 and comes with life size attachment that allows you to go up to 1:1. The lens is not great, but I've heard lots of people who are happy with and even Popular Photography contest winners using this lens. The Sigma 105mm f/2.8 ($360) is naturally 1:1 and will give you a better results. Definitely the Canon lenses are the best choice in terms of image quality, (they are not USM), but based

on a limited budget I'd get the Sigma. It costs you just a bit more

($50) than the Canon 50mm f/2.5 which is only 1:2. Good luck with your

choice,

Hi all, I just came back from a trip to Big Bend which ended sooner

than I had planned. I went first to New Mexico and in the way to Big

Bend (385 South) I was enjoying one of the nicest sunset I have ever

saw and thinking

about to stop at certain point to get a shot when a huge female deer

crossed the road in front of my tiny car (i.e., ex-tiny car). I didn't

even had a chance to use the breaks... Fortunately, no injuries. The

car was smoking out, whithout lights and slowing down in the middle

of nowhere when I saw in the side a truck and decided to ask for

help. This guy went to the nearest city (Marathon) where he lives and

called a towing service. He told me he goes there only once a week to

put water to his cows (luck me!). After all I still went to Big Bend,

but only for a couple of days in an extremelly expensive rental car.

In the way back, I noticed a huge amount of dead animals in the road.

I'm living in the US the last ca. 3 years and I have driven across 11

states, (it may not be much, but I

have a normal day-job), and I never saw such problem. Might it be

because I wasn't looking at? Or would it be more common in certain

regions?

 

One of my points here is to warn future Big Bend (and surroundings)

visitors about the problem. A second one, is there any tip to avoid

it besides caution and to drive slow from early evening to early

morning? One thing I found out that might be helpful. The major

concentration of these animals reside in the cow farm areas. Why?

They have water source guaranteed in the desert.

Funny thing, I didn't see any deer in the Park, but many of them

on the road side. Sad thing, from Big Bend to Hill county I could say

I saw more than a hundred dead deers on the road...

Hi Bobby, I'd also suggest Zion/Bryce instead GC South Rim. Zion would give you plenty of subjects, rock formations, textures and diversified environments. Bryce is really an amazing place due to its color and unique formation. Bryce is smaller than Zion, so I'd use a couple of days for Zion and one day for Bryce. I'll take the liberty to suggest one more thing... whatever is your schedule, don't miss a sunrise *and* a sunset at Bryce. I really believe you wouldn't regret it.

Thanks Jim. I own a 28mm. Actually I thought about the

Canon 20-35 mm f/3.5-4.5, but between this and the 20 mm, I think

I rather get the last one. I read in here (photo.net) that the 20mm

would be a bit more difficult to use, but also would produce less flare and present a better performance when used under low-light conditions. The difference in the price is not *that* much. I short, if I don't get any nice feedback about the Tokina lens, I won't take the risk, i.e., I'll stick with Canon...

Hi all, I've been reading a lot the comments/discussions about wide

angles as well Bob Atkins review (I'm a EOS user, BTW). Actually it

really helped me a lot and I'm (or was) decided to get the Canon 20mm

f/2.8. The f/2.8 is not a priority, but might be useful since I like

also to shoot at caverns, pictographs as well under dense vegetation.

However, I saw that Tokina has a NEW 17mm f/3.5, the "Pro ATX". It

uses a 77mm filter size and apparently is an all glass aspherical lens

element. It also uses some HLD elements (I don't know how many) and a

floating element. The lens sounds great and the price is comparable

to the Canon 20mm(!). Would anyone have a comment about this lens?

Yet, would any EOS user know if it's eye control focus consistent?

Thanks a lot,

I lived a couple of years in La Jolla and really liked to go to Anza

Borrego. You have nice spots for nature photography. Try also

the secondary parts of the park. However, the flower bloom in the

spring season is definitely the high point. In the way

back (if you are coming back early evening) don't lose the opportunity to taste the traditional Julian's apple pie. If you want to shoot at

wildlife try Joshua Tree NP (ca. three hours from San Diego). There you will easly find lots of coyotes. In one day trip I saw about seven! They come extremely close to your car. I also saw roadrunners, tarantulas, etc. The park is small, but unique.