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Supriyo last won the day on October 29 2018

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  1. Visiting these forums after a very long time... Nice to see all the familiar faces still here. I feel, there's a (sometimes big) difference in wading in one's own negative emotions vs experiencing them in a picture. It's somewhat like enjoying a dark rainy day vs being outside in one. One reason, negative emotion in a photo is more appealing than lighter or happier themes is, we tend to perceive negative emotions as more authentic. Sadness or anger or frustration feels like more unfiltered compared to happy scenes (e.g everyone smiling for the shutter). These are my own thoughts though, so perhaps a bit subjective in their scope.
  2. Honestly, as someone who is getting somewhat familiar with AI, especially generative AI, I would agree with all the concerns that have been presented here or elsewhere. It’s a powerful technology, certainly not a hype any longer, and used maliciously can cause a lot of damage. However, if we look beyond all the petty, fraudulent applications of AI in art, I cannot imagine, a powerful tool like AI would not pave a legitimate path for creative artists. Many of our concerns relate to the hijacking by AI of the craft of human artists, like brushstrokes or post-processing. What if someone can come up with a new genre of AI driven art, where the act of manipulating the machine becomes the craft. How the machine perceives the daily cacophony of human content and responds to an artist’s manipulation can become the content of such art and provide new food for thought. It is like viewing the human civilization through a convoluted mirror. These are of course my early imaginations, but I feel eventually, we will get there. One potentially interesting route towards AI driven art could be to push the machine towards the edge of what it was trained to do, give it inputs that are perhaps conflicting and see what it comes up with. Can one compose poetry in collaboration with AI, or create a dialog (chat transcript) that could be insightful. Who knows, only future can tell, but it’s surely interesting to see how a sophisticated AI machine with its ‘steely eyes’ would perceive human world and make (non)sense of it.
  3. Supriyo

    Du und ich

    Very interesting shot involving wide angle, distorted elements and diagonal features. The human faces in the foreground are an added plus.
  4. Supriyo

    Vacancy smwm.jpg

    Brilliant capture. All features of the image blend together to create an impression of storybook illustration. I like the skillful handling of elements with wide dynamic range, from the bright motel signs to the dark shrubbery and the dramatic sky.
  5. I like that PN over the years has had a balance of discussions on what to shoot (i.e. philosophy of shooting or the art of seeing) vs. how to shoot (the techniques), although the philosophy part is highly dependent on available members. Also, I like that even though PN has many veteran members, they don't always mingle among themselves and newcomers are not ignored. Any question asked in a forum will usually be answered, even though some times the OP is never to be seen again. And, not to say the least that this site is nearly like a phoenix. How many times in the past we all thought that this is it, the end of PN, and then it came back again :-). I seems to me, that minus a nuclear armageddon, we are safe!
  6. Whenever apps like this emerge, there is a lot of buzz regarding AI and it’s negative effects, however there are talented people working relentlessly towards solving important problems in medicine, astrophysics using AI. Their efforts are rarely highlighted. Also, a lot of AI is silently injected everyday into the information that we gather from google searches, social media etc, that can implicitly bias us in certain directions. There are AI engines that constantly analyze human behavior/bias through online posts and ad clicking and tailor information towards those biases. These under-the-hood activities are equally, if not more dangerous than the eye-catching photo apps. Lastly, AI technology at its current state is certainly over-hyped to some extent, even some AI specialists admit that.
  7. The problem is in the volume of it and the degree of efficiency of production. It still took skills and most importantly time to pull off something that fools everybody. Not like today, where thousands of algorithmically generated fake imagery can flood the internet within seconds. Most people enjoy fictional novels knowing what it is, but fiction under the disguise of truth is the most dangerous thing.
  8. That's an impossible standard to meet, in the context of the current discussion. Art can also start a dialogue, make the viewer interested or aware of a certain topic, so that he/she can pursue it further. Art doesn't always have to be an end-all destination for information.
  9. Some photos benefit from background knowledge, but I feel the onus is on the viewer to look it up. In this case, the clue is the phrase “survivor tree”, which refers to an elm tree in the parking lot of the Oklahoma Federal building that nearly died from the 1995 terrorist bombing, but came back an year later. So, on an anniversary of 9/11, this is quite a relevant topic for a picture. I think, the shadows of the tree branches and leaves juxtaposed over the plaque make us feel the presence of a living breathing entity, remind us of the terrible tragedy that once unfolded, and the exceptional resilience of this elm tree.
  10. I love the photo, especially the semi-out of focus vegetation that resemble brushstrokes. The background is also non-distracting and the color shades harmonize with the foreground. Overall, the image has a painterly feel to it (I can easily imagine rendering this in pastel, which is the medium I mainly work on). The softness of the colors and lines probably add to the tenderness of the subject that others have commented on. I do agree with Robin's comment about the lack of light on the deer, but considering the whole, I don't feel its a dealbreaker.
  11. That's true JDM. After I posted it, I was wondering how many of these scanners rely on SCSI, which is extinct now. Others may use USB 1.1 which is slow, or Firewire which can still work on Apple but using expensive adapters. I have a Cannon Canoscan FS4000 which still works on modern computers using USB 1.1.
  12. There are quite a few used film scanners on sale at Ebay. For example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/255693394274?epid=66779005&hash=item3b88839162:g:vVgAAOSwbGli-cDs&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoOiQupRvHPEjOzqbuoBjQXx2WmkrA2rNL1nML6dLX08yEF8sEXt0VmBvDK2eJZ4qWFHNpGZe%2BvdNW%2Fqe9QO6Jt0jAwRcYmhL7nus4gahEwzgRlLR0WIyyhfQBH5czI5b5rn%2FlTmSm9ArPBoYqYYu1TIofZL4ChZodwOCowSUHnIcc8K%2BN6oB0wm7BYLGmyOUYC0kwrJFV%2F4TmETkQd6j%2Btw%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6Dey4DeYA or this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/165640121770?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D241587%26meid%3D5b553c97dcdf45ecabaa590e6f53e8ff%26pid%3D101195%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D144696965607%26itm%3D165640121770%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DSimplAMLv11WebTrimmedV3MskuAspectsV202110NoVariantSeedKnnRecallV1&_trksid=p2047675.c101195.m1851&amdata=cksum%3A1656401217705b553c97dcdf45ecabaa590e6f53e8ff%7Cenc%3AAQAHAAABIMFr2e4EmAnM%252ByHZkULYKDIJ4L66fOjNL0iupgt%252BzO1%252F3AE1t3mNirUYB96NktMCicMagiS6mbeTl0xquGODv9n2Ixo%252BEtRuNovDOHoGZWXIjaVwh1cTPATM1Rd8iR3BxV90jluqell0myzr0GHze2jpxNY%252BGbkB%252BVxcczXtyuj65TjtESfyxX4gpOy%252BT%252F9I%252F7XAgg2v34ck%252FdwYMtC2W9nyG9Lj0q7bKHY%252BicAbv3b%252FIlAfDaNiHReNkPw8C%252FPp5VQr4TJwVLPErGQXQ0WiwieA4OgK4K9IhT%252FLa6mJgk9%252BbFrzmSyH5yKwujs7YtM5HqIIUBU%252FHhMcUjTP7INd054qfvJa5xaO5XUVGM%252B%252BEQIWkw0s5RdMUaapvAqH5lA%252Fqw%253D%253D%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675
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