harry_soletsky1

October 14, 2003

Leica made a variety of waist-level finders: 50mm, 35mm, 28mm, all laterally correct but all collectors items. The 28mm and the 35mm use the 50mm finder as the base with separate swing over lenses for each. There was a Zeiss waist level finder also laterally correct and also a collectors items. Collectors items mean unfortuneately not cheap.

October 13, 2003

While I appreciate Gerald's comment on the Jupiter, I personally would not consider it as the quality is usually uneven and finding a good one may a problem. Some feel they can tolerate the hassel of finding a good one or they know reliable dealer.

October 13, 2003

It depends what you are using them for. First with f2.0 and ASA 400 film even indoors there are really a lot of subjects that are fine indoors for these lenses. It then depends on your wallet and even with an older lens its condition as you are talking about some lenses over 20 years old. From what I can see primarily from the marketplace the best buy will be the 11817 50mm summicron which really is little different picture wise from the present formula.

The discussions regarding tabs, type or any at all are personal.. the same for clipon hood vs sliding. For 35mm from what I can see and from personal experience all Summicrons are not very different picturewise for most situations and the older ones are preferred by some rather that the newer ones. The last statement will likely get some blood boiling but I can't tell what your wants, needs and wallet can support.

October 12, 2003

Mr. Fulton, I believe your lens is model #11817. The lens referred to in this thread is the later formulae model #11819 (and some later model #s as well). Personally I see no diffence in picture quality between these two models and I'm not alone in this feeling.

October 12, 2003

B&H lists it as "out of stock".

October 11, 2003

The full answer they all take great pictures and mounts and cosmetics are personal preference

October 11, 2003

The answer is yes. The tabs varied, some concave, some convex. Of course, as expected, there were advocates of both styles of tab. I have the convex tab but I have a 35mm Summicron with concave tab and see no difference. As far as the hood is concerned any style of clip-on hood for the Summicron works from the first to the last one.

October 10, 2003

Interesting. Many years ago Wetzlar changed the finder of my M4 to that of the M3. Works fine including works to 28 inches.

October 10, 2003

There are issues with the R2 of some collapsible lens damaging the shutter.

October 10, 2003

You also will not have the parallax correction the eyes give so framing will be problematical. I also tried to hold the pin down and was not successful. I suspect even if I could I might not be able to continuously and the lens may jam and you may do real damage to the focussing mount. Basically buy the eyes or a SOMKY closup attachment with I believe a UROOF adaptor for the Summicron lens head

October 10, 2003

Personally I use only lens fluid to clean lens mounts and bayonet mounts using Q-tips to apply and to remove the fluid from the surfaces.

October 10, 2003

The focus is 1m. Closer requires the "eyes". If the fog is dirt or condensed lubricant it should be able to cleaned.

October 10, 2003

The outer diameter of the first Leica adaptors was the same all around. They then made the lower part (180 degrees in all) narrower and the cleared the infinity lock of these lenses fine. I, of course cannot comment on whether this will take care of the problem with the Industar.

October 9, 2003

Now that I know what you mean forget it. It's a waste of money. The peepsite needs you eye exactly centered. It's also large and I'm not sure it would be bent easily. Use a bright line finder.

October 9, 2003

Which one? Some from Leica are expensive collectors items.

October 8, 2003

Since Ebay itself is not so pure, I stay away. I know some of you have had good luck and swear they never have had a problem. With the hijackings of identity theft which is common on ebay, I don't need that irritation. One should remember Ebay is now a job lot seller primarily moving large numbers of item for these users. The private buyers and sellers are not what they are about now and they tend to ignore them. Certainly, Paypal seems primarily about Ebay getting their money.

October 8, 2003

I have a 105mm f2.5 Nikkor LTM and used it for years with a succession of Leica Ms. The main problem was when TTL came out, it was confusing to use as the aperature ring turned in a opposite way from most of the Leica lenses. The expception was the heavier earlier 90mm f2.0 Summicron and also the Elcan M lenses which I also used. I certainly do not consider this lens a "Lada". Certainly it's reputation was and is excellent althought I cannot comment on results of optical test charts.

October 7, 2003

The problems that affect contrast may have nothing to do the condition of the top plate or any of the mechanics of the camera. A good dent however is not helpful. Exterior of older Leicas tell little of what is going on inside.

October 7, 2003

As has been said in this thread, before blaming the finder construction, other that the flare problem, Mr. Sum should confirm that the finder is up to spec, This camera is probably at least 10years old and was sold used. Why was it sold? I have used M2s, M3sm M4s, M5s and M6s and have found them to be excellent with good contrast unless the patch flares.

October 6, 2003

I've had a 15mm Heliar since it came out and for the price it's quite good. Optically the Hologon is better but at it's present value, I'm somewhat reluctant to use it especially as the graduated filter is a must and is hard to protect and it's very slow at f16. I also have a 28mm f1.9 and so far no problems and I use it regularly and so far no problems and the finish is holding up.

October 6, 2003

As I have loudly complained, my two M6s had lots of flare. One has had the fix and it works perfectly. The second one is at Northvale awaiting parts from Germany. Considering that M6 was purchased in 1982, I consider the $260 well spent. The camera awaiting the change dates from 1987. I have heard the M6TTL flare varied with magnification. Also I didn't find the flare much of a problem until I got grandchildren and a large windowed door in the living room caused havoc with my photography of them. Now no problem and I've tried lots of situations so I'm pleased. I've tried shooting into the sun, Sun just outside field, sun in field, sun to the side plus various lights in the room with a dark field with strong sidelight. It works!!! So I suspect some of the flare is the particular situation. And I don't intend to stint on taking pictures of my grandchildren.

October 5, 2003

Oops! It's Vol II of Jim Lager's book.

October 5, 2003

I have both hoods. The earlier one has a longer taper and is labeled Summaron 3.5 cm and also Summicron 5cm. As noted in Laney's book it is not labeled IROOA. My labeled IROOA lists all the aperatures of 50 and 35mm that accept the standard clip-on of all E-39 lenses as lenses it fits. Vol. III of Jim Lager's Leica Illustrated Guide (his first books)shows both hoods and calls them both IROOA.

October 5, 2003

On page 75 of the Courrier there appears to be a statement that the new flare free finder starts at #2,885,000 but my german is not so good.

October 5, 2003

1 cam versions that only work on the Leicaflex SL are likely to be to be very cheap and 2Cams may also be quite cheap.

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