andre_noble3

Using the Jobo 3006 (4x5 and 5x7 compatible drum) for the first time, and had a couple questions during a dry run loading dummy sheets.

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1) Does the 4" or 5" edge of the sheet film get inserted first into the tubes?

2) Inside each tube there are 2 "trenches" running down the length. Is the film supposed to be situated relative to these grooves in any particular manner?

3)Finally, How does one manage to put the lid on EVENLY? The fit is quite tight, and therefore my attempts have not worked, and drum will rotate with a warble on processor. Does it call for a thin layer of Vaseline, then cranking down on lid til it's on as far as it will go all the way 'round?

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I do appreciate any assistance you can give. Andre

My 5th grade students know that their teacher loves LF photography.

And for better or worse, I think we as LF'ers have alot in common

(personality wise).

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So, after reading a number of replies to bogus posts such as this

one, I thought of a new way to conceptualize algebra for them with

this formula:

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Large Format Photographer = "Nice Guy" = Sucker

Tangentially: there is an old thread by an artist working cibas 3

years back who suggests for those printing cibas to re-evaluate

transparency film use to accomodate inherant contrast in ciba's. Im

will paste his remarks. Something to think about:

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"Cibachrome (also Ilfochrome) is an increadible sharp material it

favours specially LF. The larger the film, the more naturality,

tonality and detailed Ciba. The most beautiful Cibas comes from 8x10

and bigger slides. The problems of control in color photograpy lies

most in the mastering of contrast. Develop your E-6 film with a 1

stop pull processing, that is 5 minutes in the E-6 first dev. Every

good custom lab. will do this. This will give more than 1stop in

exposure latitude. A slight color shift against minus-magenta will

occure; if this bother you, filter it away. Find a lab that prints

Cibachrome (Ilfochrome) Low Contrast material CF1k in process P-3 or

P-3X. This will give exellent results,even the more popular P-4 is

not bad either. Once you get the LF-Ciba combination you will never

leave it. -- Jan Eerala (

jan.eerala@itameri.net), May 29, 1999.

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There4s no need for bracketing and no outwashed highligts if you

don't develop your trannies full 6 minutes in E-6. I think this 6

minute concept is more a scheme of the filmindustry to obtain higher

nominal speed for their films than regards for good qualities. I

consider 5-5min 15seconds to be more of a "normal" first developer

time for E-6. The film speed will be half of the nominal, but you

will have really more exp.latitude, specially on the highlight side.

Generally, it4s not a good practice to say negative is better than

trannies, or vice versa. They shall be considered more like a

different method of expression. Despite this view, I have never seen

any in color that outstands a good polyesterbased ciba made from a LF

original. ( Ellis, why do you use Velvia? It's the most contrasty E-6

film I know.) -- Jan Eerala (

Jan.eerala@itameri.net), May 30, 1999.

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PS, to ad to this note, today saw some prints made off digital

printer in gallery, and am more convinced to cotinue my intro into

cibasa as time and money allow. Sorry if this was too long. Andre

PS, at a Bergamont Gallery in Santa monica today and saw some very

large fiber based B&W prints said to be mounted to aluminum. (Because

the overmat covered the print edges and substrate, aluminum was not

visible for confirmation.) I guess orange peel is still an issue for

B&W fiber prints on normal museum board too? Why else was aluminum

used for mounting?....

Ken Burns, good to hear from you again. I think David

Grubin's "Napoleon" special on PBS trounces your "Jefferson", But I

still like your Frank Lloyd Wright documentary piece :>)

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FYI, Bergger aluminum materials you made mention of, I checked, and

found they are emulsion-coated.

I just dry-mounted 8x10 Cibachromes last night at home for 1st time using Seal color mount tissue at 175 F on Alphamat Artcare museum board. Results good, with mild "orange-peel effect though, due to backing board, perhaps not enough to worry over.

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But I've heard one can get really fancy and dry mount Ciba's on an aluminum substrate for a very smooth finish. Anyone out there doing this or know of details about it,ie what type of Aluminum, where to get, what tissue and temperature? Andre

Going to England and Ireland, bring an umbrella for the very

occaisional drizzle.

Q or other who takes on resposibilty, seriously: Make promise to

archive all people's email who contributed on this site. Take time

to develop BETTER system. Send email when it's up and running.

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Why does anyone think we should settle for moving backwards? We have

something really good here, and technology is moving forward too.

Responses to go to photonet/yahoo route seem pessimistic, and are

baffling.

Hey, is anyone missing an Ebony RW45 and three Fujinon lenses? Just

kidding. Lucky you.

I am offering to run a seperate server from my apartment here in LA,

day and night - free of charge. (I live in an apartment with

utilities pre-paid by owner, whom I can't stand). Reliability will be

excellent, except when me and the guy donstairs cook dinner on our

electric hot plates at the same time. andre

Insurance is a must!!!!!!

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I have it as an Personal Articles floater attachment to renters

insurance. Insuring the equipment itself cost appx. $14 per month per

$10,000 here in LA.

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To set up, I sent A+ Auto & Home an itemized list, they called about

large items of over a grand, and wanted serial numbers. Inexpensive

items not related such as an accesory to larger camera, are not

included (such as dark cloth vs. lens board) but may be covered

under personal articles coverage of renters policy.

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Haven't had to use it, peace of mind is well worth it.

To help with question #2, please post exact proposed dates and cost

of workshop on thread, if possible please. Andre

Los Angeles City College has an unbelievable, but little known

photography program. Each faculty has decades of experience. They

are all full-time faculty, and they don't promote the program,

because I think they prefer teaching smaller classes.

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If you can somehow claim California state resident status:

undeniably the best value, tuition-wise at 13 dollars a unit (typical

course is 3-6 units), you will find anywhere in the U.S.

As a resident of LA, I would say Jim, you picked the wrong longitude

and latitude as a place to expect the kind of consideration you'd

like from the Getty.

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They at Getty probably look at us LF as another fringe special

interest group wanting a favor, instead of kindred folk... nobody

does anything out of courtesy, or for free in LA.

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You must be from somewhere nice.

Steve, in general, I enjoy technical articles relating to film,

paper, and printing - which we large format photographers tend to be

interested in. Don't be afraid to re-cover something, perhaps in a

different shade. Andre

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PS Also portraiture: any chance of getting Richard Avedon to submit

an article? Or have I missed that one already?

Yates, I believe, is a well known Irish leader from the 1800th

century. His grave site is found outside the city of Sligo in NW

Treland, (It's set in an old monastery against the backdrop of a

beautiful bluff there.) Andre

The greatest thing I aspire to: To be able to get control of my

highlights during development.

Paul, The people who can handle "being put on a pedestal" become the

John Sextons of the world :>) Andre

At the risk of diluting our outstanding archives with trivial posts, I just wanted to confirm, that after reading previous "John Sexton" post I doubted it was him too. I made a wisecrack entry on post as "Ansel Baby".

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I felt a little frustrated that recently some people don't realize how vital it is that a community like ours have some measure of trust in one another. As it turns out, the 1st John Sexton poster was indeed not AA's former assistant. He could have been some John Sexton, but not AA' protege'.

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However: I decided to do something more constructive. I visited the famed John Sexton's web site, used his official email off there, and penned him a private email asking him to pay the thread and site in a visit.

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I hereby wish to confirm, based on the second "John Sexton" entry on that post, that the former Ansel Adams assistant and accomplished photographer in his own right, John Sexton, did indeed visit our site. Andre