Allen Herbert

Do photographs of nudes make sense after Edward Weston, Saul Leiter or Robert Mapplethorpe?Je NE "I have certainly learned that nudes are just like any other photograph" Je Ne What are you rambling on about? Seems to me you have spent too much time err navel grazing. Whole world out there give it a look. Yep, forget about taking photos ,those old timers have done it all. Silly and stupid thoughts; we all have creativity and unique in our vision. Get over yourself. .

First photo you have captured a essence of the character, Arthur.. Perfect light and sharpness.

I am a Photographer. I take Photographs.

Little girl photos, from a distance ,out of focus. What does that tell you about the Photographer? Anyway, not a little girl, from a distance out of focus. Just a old lady trying to find her way.

"angst is a good example of a negative emotion" Really. It has its place among human emotions. We are not yet machine intelligence, yet.

Anyway,, my mate ironeye, and his mates, ;lots of them, told me the photographic device you use really does not matter.. Okay, them being masters of photography.

"I've learned it's often futile to make demands of others" There' thought. Some folk like to think themselves as a Photographic Guru. Okay, they looked at themselves in a mirror and fell in love. Faithfull for ever....

Lets be honest, this forum has more to do with a tax return, than a discussion about photography.. Same old folk, purveying their old arse stories. Multiple arse gazing. Looking for love from their mates.and guru, Sam. Outsiders not really welcome.. Just a thought.

Anyway ,,lets go somewhere else other than arse grazing.. Yes, a photograph, ,without a thousand words of crap.

"n respect to making demands on others, I rationally agree with you. But I live this kind of idealistic contradiction. Je Ne. In fairy land. Maybe, you should think photography, instead of arse grazing. Arse grazing has can be very boring.

" Just like History of Art. As you say of Duchamp, artists often break conventions to express creativity"!Je Ne. Indeed he does, but he does not work for everybody. For me, he does not. A sensational photographer who merely photographs objects of little interest. Sensational, to shock his viewers. Corny. He's other works would invoke little interest on PN. A Photographer whos work would be passed by, if the arty commercial world would have taken him onboard. But then they take anything on board regardless of any art. Je,Ne, you are lost in a cult of your own making. Those were the days which have never ended. For you. Best Modern Photographers - Search (bing.com)

"can we agree that it is the responsibility of the viewer to go beyond an epidermal perception of what they see, but to go deeper?" Je Ne. Why would the viewer have any responsibility when looking at a Photograph? It is the Photographer who needs to communicate to the viewer, not the viewer. And of course many Photographers just enjoy their Photography. If it communicates to them little else matters. Je Ne you are not a judge on master chef. This is Photo Net.

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Your original preposition is nonsense, je.ne Lets us not bother to take any photographs, as the old timers have already walked those paths, with a mastery us poor mortals could never emulate. Fairy land thoughts. Anyway, when is a nude photograph not a nude photograph? Suggestive or not.

Ken, we would disagree until the end of time... Suffice to say the iPhone is like the swiss army knife jack of all trades master of none. "but the latest top of the line Iphone (and Samsung I believe) main camera sensor is 71 sq mm. Compact p&s cameras used to have sensors between 25-45 sq mm and the big sensor in Sony's RX100 series is only 116 sq mm. My m43 sensor is a whopping 225 sq mm" Ken. Let us not forget the lens, Ken.. Important. Size, does matter. "3 Iphones in 12 years. No plastic in any of them. Ken. Fairy tale of marketing. 35per cent at least plastic. Flimsy build, cheap materials, try dropping it from a few feet. "modern (glare resistant) Iphone screen, only occasionally do you have to shade the screen to see" Ken. Really, I can offer you many photos of iPhone users struggling to see their screen .Real world. Bottom line if using a iPhone works for you great. Some of us are a bit more .....

"the plus side, nobody ask me for directions anymore...I don't give very good directions" Sandy. Well, once upon time when I had too many gold coins in my pocket ,I decided to have flying lessons. Sort of thought like a bird flying through the sky. So, I passed all formalities, and was ready for my first solo flight. Then I remembered, I have absolutely no sense of direction, a family characteristic. Visions, of me lost in the clouds, wandering around the sky's until the fuel run out. I thought ,maybe I could glide down ,on a motorway or something. Then I thought fkhat. And here I'm today. You lucky folk.

"As for digital cameras the iPhone seems to have replaced almost all models and it has advantages that a digital camera does not" Steve. Well, the advantages of a iPhone are significant, You do not have the bother of looking through a viewfinder to take your photos. And on a sunshine day, you cannot see the screen ;this is special as it enables you to enjoy the sunshine. Is that not so cool? Better, it is a slippery thing easy to drop, and you can claim for a new one on your insurance. Wow. And, because it has a tiny tiny sensor all your photo will look software driven without any character/feeling a camera/quality lens would give. Sterile, like a hospital ward. How cool is that. Best of all is the high quality cheap plastic build. And every few months you can upgrade it to the same sort of cheap plastic thing. Yes, it is really cheap plastic, made somewhere cheap... ....guess.

Sam, original and creative. Not the usual clichés, of a naked young lady, which we see time and time again A bucket full of banality becomes very boring.; I suppose some folks have more interest in titillations than creative/perceptions of photography.

time for an real camera.