The warwick river sunset

your comments please, thank you

Hi,

Very nice and very graphical.

I like very much it.

Congrats. 7/7 :))

Wow....speachless.

Excellent man - kind of an inverse of one by Jamie Nicholson.

really would love to see it -post a little tag here ~thanks ~ GT

Nicely done, Glenn :-)

I love it's simplicity, nicely done.

A classic!

beautiful picture. 7/7

Hi Glenn, it's funny to see this just this morning. I was out doing some bird work yesterday late in the day. The last couple of hours before sunset. While there, I was thinking about the amazing colors you pull out of your pictures. This is another shining example. I find your pictures absolutely spectacular. All the best.

Here ya go.

I had about a dozen different shots where they flew by or thru the sun with a mix of colors, from bright yellow to burning white, but this was the last of the shots before it just disapeared.~ thanks ~ GT

perfect...................

the beauty is beyond description.

I think what attracts me most to this is the simplicity of it. I also enjoy the shades of red in the sun and just the two birds. Excellent!

 

Sue.

Make one dreams away. Romantic in its very simplicity. Best regards, Tanya.

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I'm surprised no one mentioned it looked out of balance. But then again, I'm not. I think most folks that commented were 'yes people', those that praised but were afraid to speak the truth. It's nice, but too much blank space above. I'd go square, and I shoot square, but crop many of those rectangular. It's what ever works for me, that's the best. Even then, it would only hold you attention for 5 seconds, and that's not enough to warrant anyone's time in printing it to start with.
I remember that one of the P.O.W.s, a couple of years back, was of a grave shot over in Serbia or somewhere- it was dramatic, but also had about 20% of nothingness on one end. His response on my suggestion for cropping? "I only crop in camera". Oh well, so I thought, 'stay in a rut then, and keep making mediocre artwork bud'.

The inevitable question: are the birds shopped in?

There really is not a lot more to discuss, except the crop, which Michael has already noted.

--Lannie

This is a visual cliche. Cropping would only emphasize this fact and make the image squashy-looking. The space above lets the image breathe. I agree with Lannie. There is not much to discuss here.

An artist friend in Estonia paints fruit in very realistic textures and colors and then adds a very small but perceptible rotten spot that makes you think about both beauty and ugliness. Brilliant. When I first saw the thumbnail of this on the forum page I thought first it was a color saturated peach with a few black spots. Something of similar pull and tension. So now, seeing the sunset in the opened image, the only thing that dulls slightly a quite spontaneous 'ho-hum' is the complicity of the two forms of flight of the birds. Still not enough in my mind to capture attention, even in the absence of the invasive framing.

The flight configuration of the birds is the most interesting aspect to my mind. To elevate the image from a "cliché" status mentioned by Alex, I would suggest to the author - should the resolution of his digital file withstand the zooming in - that he might reframe that part of the image, so as to include just a limited arc (a seeming pie slice) of the sun, which would bleed into the left and bottom of the reframing. The sun would then be only suggested in the image rather than seen as whole, and the birds made the principal subject. I will refrain from a reframe here, as some may find that sort of manipulation insulting instead of being a positive critique/comment that is really intended, and which I hope may interest the photographer.

I think Arthur makes an interesting suggestion and a very good choice not to post a reframing. This way, the suggestion is out there, but the vision for it is left to the original photographer. There would be many ways to accomplish the basic goal Arthur is coming at, so I think allowing the photographer the room for continuing his own creative endeavor here is great. Who knows? In the process of playing around with Arthur's suggestion, the photographer might come up with something totally different and yet something that still works for him.

Likewise, of course, the photographer may not be interested in something more abstract or suggestive or less cliché. I think many people with cameras go out to shoot clichés, stuff they've sort of seen before that they simply want to do themselves. It's a little like in the "old days" when we would carve into the wall of an abandoned wooden cabin: I was here.

This is quite serenely beautiful. Compositionally, I do really like how one of the birds is enclosed within the circle of the sun and the other is outside. The birds really add to a definitive context to the image.

Whether it would work better or not, I think we often hear of "excess" space in images and don't realize that often that is the point, a place to go and allow ourselves to go blank and feel. This image has sort of that "inspirational poster" type of feel to it and I think the space might just be appropriate--although if it were one of those posters, some trite saying would have filled this respite area!

I am not really crazy about this image probably because it does feel like it is one of those posters, it is sort of expected--maybe except for the gray sky, which I am not responding well to but I don't know that I would any better if it were some other color. I just think the image is a bit trite and doesn't really hold up to much of the other work Glenn has done. We all have these, we show them and folks wonder why when we have so many better things. They just strike a some chord in us that we hope will be understood by someone else--eventually, we give up!

Anyway, I agree with generally only giving words and descriptions with regards to any critique. Not only does that give the photographer good feedback for them to ponder but often our reasons for thinking as we do and suggesting change gives the person more insight than a mindless, unexplained change. Maybe our rationale for a change is exactly what he/she wanted us to feel. We may, with time, actually get it. I think these redux images should be done when asked for if clarity is needed. Otherwise, practice verbalizing is good for everyone.