steve_bright1 Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 This is my first forum thread - please be gentle with me. <p>I have some strange colour fringes that are appearing adjacent to highlight areas in my images. I've attached a sample image, taken with my EOS 10D, down-sized to 600 pixels wide. I've highlighted a number of areas as white boxes, and these sections are shown separately, magnified by a factor of two. <p>Most of the colour fringes are near the edges, red on the left, purple on the right, but there's even a slight fringe towards the middle. <p>If it was a film camera, I'd suspect chromatic aberration from a really poor lens, but the body is digital and the C.A. is at a level far worse than I've seen with any other lens. Is there another explanation? Perhaps digital artifacts from the anti-aliasing filter? Is something faulty? <p>Here's the technical info:<br> <table><tbody> <tr><td>Camera</td><td>Canon EOS 10D</td></tr> <tr><td>Lens</td><td>Canon 28-135mm IS USM</td></tr> <tr><td>Focal length</td><td>28mm</td></tr> <tr><td>ISO</td><td>100</td></tr> <tr><td>Shutter speed</td><td>1/6 sec</td></tr> <tr><td>Aperture</td><td>F22</td></tr> <tr><td>Size/Quality</td><td>Large/fine</td></tr> <tr><td>Color space</td><td>Adobe RGB</td></tr> <tr><td>Parameters</td><td>All normal</td></tr> </tbody></table> <p>The full image: <p align="center"><img src="http://www.stevebright.com/photonet/IMG_2771.jpg"> <p>...and the small sections: <p> <img src="http://www.stevebright.com/photonet/IMG_2771a.jpg"> <img src="http://www.stevebright.com/photonet/IMG_2771b.jpg"> <img src="http://www.stevebright.com/photonet/IMG_2771c.jpg"> <img src="http://www.stevebright.com/photonet/IMG_2771d.jpg"> <img src="http://www.stevebright.com/photonet/IMG_2771e.jpg"> <img src="http://www.stevebright.com/photonet/IMG_2771f.jpg"> <p>Thanks for your advice. I hope I haven't committed a gross faux pas with all these images, but they are all quite small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 That's normal for this lens (and all consumer zooms). If you're going to be that critical, start saving up for primes or L series zooms. Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry_szarek Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 True landscape photographers only use primes. Other problems will be non uniform sharpness, light fall off in the corners, etc. Start saving your pennies. I can also recommend the 17~40F4L, and the 70~200 (all three), I find the L zooms to be pretty good (not as good as primes but what do you expect). Note they are not cheap! Go to Luminous-landscape web site, for a review of canon gear zooms and primes! GS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Katz Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 "True landscape photographers only use primes" http://www.johnshawphoto.com/equipment.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ky2 Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Kenneth-- that true photographer uses a Nikon ;) Steve, you're shooting at f/22. Open up a bit or diffraction will kill your image. If you need to smooth water, use a quality ND filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phyrpowr Posted September 26, 2003 Share Posted September 26, 2003 Steve, I've blown up several of my shots with this combo, and just don't see the same problem, even washed out pure white surf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_bright1 Posted September 30, 2003 Author Share Posted September 30, 2003 Thanks for your responses. <p> I've read up on diffraction and as far as I can tell, that's just going to make the images softer rather than giving these colour fringes. Looking back through some images, I found another shot of a very bright white line next to a dark railtrack. The white line had a bright purple fringe and that was shot at F5.6. So I don't think it's diffraction, but I will definitely get an ND filter to smooth water. <p> Puppy Face says '...if you're going to be that critical...'. I don't really accept this argument. If this is chromatic aberration caused by a design limitation, then this is worse than I have ever seen, even from lenses costing a third as much. I find it difficult to accept that a company like Canon would be prepared to even put their name on it or release such a poor product to market. <p> This leads me to think that the lens is actually faulty in some way, unless... <p> The colour fringes do look quite similar to some examples of Moire artifacts I saw on the <a href="http://www.lashier.com/home.cfm?dir_cat=20523&gal_col=1">Lashier photography site</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabrielma Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Ow ow ow!! My eyes!!!<BR> And I thought I had a so-so lens. My 28-135 takes better pictures than the one posted above. I do notice some chromatic aberration when I zoom in for a 100% close-up, which is a bit annoying, but that's because my 50 f/1.4 has spoiled me. I don't own any L glass (yet), but I can tell bad glass when I see it, and the lens used for the picture above is less than average. I mean, come on, I have a cheap 0.42 converter strapped on my 28-80 for when I really need to take a picture in a tight space without panning on my 10D, and the quality of that less-than-desirable combination is not as bad (a bit close) as above.<BR> If I were you I'd exchange it or send it to Canon for repair/exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony_sanseri Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Isn't chromatic aberration a characteristic of the digital camera rather than the lens itself? If so, wouldn't the problem be with the 10D's sensor/image processor, rather than the lens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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