h_macdonald Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 Hi All Does anyone know if there is a diffrence between Sinar Norma and Sinar P 8X10 Bellows in terms of fitting as i am looking for Norma Version or some that would fit but have seen some SinarP ones for sale an i am wondering will they fit the Norma thanks H Macdonald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_tucher Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 I have a Sinar C and have a Norma shutter and it works fine, and I've been TOLD that all accessories are interchangeable, but I have no specific experience to relate. I have an 8x10 bellows but I don't even know if it is Norma or more recent. Call Sinar Bron in NJ. The 800 directory would have a listing. They are very helpful and should know something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_dickerson Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 You could also email the question to them from their web site. I've gotten very quick responses from them in the past. Joe Dickerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan n. Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 I tried to have a Sinar 8x10 rear standard and bellow for my 4x5 and recently someone told me that a P 8x10 rear standard and bellow won't fit on a Norma - A1 - F1 4x5 Sinar.... I didn't check and try further...any other opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 You need a Sinar P rear function carrier to mount the 8x10 conversion kit to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan n. Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 thanks Ellis... that confirm and save time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h_macdonald Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 I have allready a complete 10x8 Norma just only with 10x8 wide angle bellows but really wondered if the SinarP normal tapered 10x8 bellows would really fit are the fittings the same on the bellows (Pversion)plastic mountings at each end or are they totaly different to the Norma Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armin_seeholzer Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 Hi As far as I know they should fit! But ask Sinar for to be sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h_macdonald Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 thanks all for the advice ive emailed Sinar ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward_burlew Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 THEY DO NOT FIT INTERCHANGEABLY. I just had to shout! I have a f2 in 8x10 and I have had to turn down many a great del on the old norman accessories like the reduction backs and the bag bellows because they do not fit. I gave up on ebay because there is confusion and you are not going to be sure unless you actually try the item. Now I am going to throw another curve into thai because there is also a diference between the metered standard and the non metered standard in the Sinar 8x10 (P and F1 F2 use the same standard, different bases, I hav the f2 and really like it, no field camera, the arca swiss is a fantastic field camera, that's a whole 'nother story) the metered standard has a little access door on the side to allow the probe of a light meter to get in on the film palne in front of the ground glass. the bellows are differnt as to having the knotch to allow this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_driscoll2 Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 The Sinar Norma and the Sinar P, C , and S (very weird camera, made for copy work it has no rear tilt or shift) are NON-METERING BACK cameras. The P2 and the C2 and the F2 8x10's are METERING BACK cameras. Reducing backs, bellows, and the 8x10 reflex viewer interchange between the Norma and P/C series cameras. The curve is some later P style reducing backs will not fit the norma because they do not have spring locks that the Norma requires. The P cameras have slide locks on the standards-early P backs are Norma style painted black. The other curve, is that the Norma 8x10 bellows frame is a slightly different shape than the later P style, and altough it will work it won't work as well as a Norma style bellows (or so I have heard....) Just try to get a return privledge.......it should work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h_macdonald Posted October 31, 2003 Author Share Posted October 31, 2003 Well i bought them from ebay 230$ phew but i did manage to get in touch with Sinar and they said they would fit As i rang dealer they assumed i was intrested in new ones the chap there told me "am i sitting down for price" ... ...big pause......."£465+vat" how many do you want lol thanks everyone for the advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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