mario_mab Posted June 12, 2000 Share Posted June 12, 2000 I have been using the Pentax 67 with several lenses (mainly the 55mm), its a great camera and I have nothing to complain aboutit; the only thing I would have liked is some tilt shift and a more rectangular negative (6x8). The first thing that comes to my mind is the Fuji 680, but is too big for outdoor work (probably), then I think to Silvestri but I'm not sure where I could actually see and try it . Am I missing other cameras on the market out there? Even a panoramic one would be helpful, as long is convertible to 6x8 (6x9). Thank you for help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_sparks1 Posted June 12, 2000 Share Posted June 12, 2000 As far as I've been able to determine, the only 6x8 (9 exposures on 120) cameras available are made by Fuji. The 680 that you mentioned and versions of the Fuji rangefinders sold in 6x8 format in Japan only. I think that's unfortunate since I really like the shape of 6x8 negatives (actually about 56mm x 75mm), 6x7 seem too square and 6x9 too long, especially on verticals. The 9 exposures also fit nicely on contact sheets, unlike 6x7. There are a number of 6x9 (8 exposures on 120) cameras, several of which have movements and most 4x5 view cameras can take 6x9 roll film backs. For something that is small, easy to carry and quick to set up, I really like my Horseman 6x9 technical camera. Mine is a 980 but the 985, VHR and VH are fairly similar (the VHR and VH have rotating backs and all but the VH have rangefinders so that they can be used to some extent hand held, only the VH is available new). I believe the Silvestri only has shift, but I've never seen one and may be remembering what I read about them wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger krueger Posted June 12, 2000 Share Posted June 12, 2000 Well, there's a 6 x 8 back for the Mamiya RB system, but that still doesn't get you movements. (I've never seen one for the RZ though - anyone know if it can use RB backs??) An (ancient) Mamiya Super 23 will get you back tilts and 6 x 9, but no shifts, no in-camera metering, and absolutely zero modern idiot-proofing. Also, only two lenses, the 100/3.5 and the 90/3.5 let you tilt the back and maintain infinity focus. (Though a modest tilt and a middling aperture should keep inifity within the depth of field, you can no longer set the precise point of focus to infinity.) The system has a dead sharp 50/6.3, though like any lens from this era (60s, early 70s) you need to be pretty careful about backlit scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_hedley Posted June 12, 2000 Share Posted June 12, 2000 There are some 6x8 roll backs made by Toyo and Horseman which could be used on a view camera, such as the Horseman VH, Arca-Swiss or Linhof 679. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_sparks1 Posted June 13, 2000 Share Posted June 13, 2000 Could you give some more details about the Toyo or Horseman 6x8 backs? I've only seen 6x7 and 6x9 (note that 6x9 is actually about 56x82mm and gives 8 exposures on 120, 6x8 backs are about 56x76mm and gives 9 exposures on 120). I'd really like a 6x8 back for my Horseman. Anyone used the RB back on a view camera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas_carl Posted June 13, 2000 Share Posted June 13, 2000 You are much better off with a 6x9 camera and crop your negative if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shambrick007 Posted June 14, 2000 Share Posted June 14, 2000 I believe that www.keh.com has a 6x8 Fuji rangefinder for sale now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario_mab Posted June 14, 2000 Author Share Posted June 14, 2000 Thank you for the suggestion, it's tempting, but the that fixed focal lens is too limiting for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_drew4 Posted June 15, 2000 Share Posted June 15, 2000 I'll toss in the Alpa MF with movements! $cha-ching! Very customizable and takes all sorts of backs and high quality lenses. This system is a real work of art! - Backtoreality - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario_mab Posted June 15, 2000 Author Share Posted June 15, 2000 Is the Alpa MF like the Alpa 12? That is very very appealing to me but to get it to work needs around 10K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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