roger c Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 I want some of the above for pictures this autumn (fall). I've usedScotch 1000 (slide) and Konica SRG 3200 (neg) in the past, but theredoesn't seem to be anything similar on the market these days. Thegrain needs to be as big as possible for that pointillist effect. Anyideas? Can any colour negative films be pushed to give big grainwithout increasing contrast too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_fortier Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 grain!! shuuuut... this is taboo. in neg look like konica 1600, and slide in pro the epl-400 from kokak don't know if the elite 400 is the same film, you are left with using half frame, shoot wider & crop. pushing c-41 will increase more contrast then grain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canon_eos_rules Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 1: Yep, Elite Chrome 400 is the same as Ektachrome 400. 2: Why not try Kodak MAX 800 (or Kodak ULTRA 800 in some countries)? Grain the size of big trucks PLUS inaccurate color! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuck Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 I guess what constitutes "big" grain is fairly subjective, but I don't think you're going to get there with neg film. The large-brained alien scientists responsible for today's neg emulsions have a low grain to speed ratio as one of their prime directives, on accounta the slowish lenses and weakish flashes on consumer point and shoot cameras. Buck up and get some Kodachrome 200. Shoot it straight up, or at 500, or at 800. Or some EPJ320T. Shoot it at 1000 and get it processed +2. Neither of these are inexpensive options, but if you really want grain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_haykin Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 You can buy or make grain and texture negs to print through to get just about any effect you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.t. dowling Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 Fuji Press 1600 pushed, or Kodak Max 800 pushed. Konica Centuria Super 1600 has finer grain than Kodak Max 800, so that probably isn't a good solution for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxasst Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 I have seen an ad in PORTERS that shows a plastic insert that is placed between shutter and film. From what I recall, the insert has speckles that block the light reaching the film. It comes in a few degrees of coarseness. Contrast could still be maintained as original to whatever film you choose. I haven't tried this, but the theory seems sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gauthier Posted August 25, 2003 Share Posted August 25, 2003 If you still want to go the slide way, Freeman Patterson suggests Provia 400F pushed two stops. I don't know if it's still available, but Provia 1600 could be an option, too. I haven't tried either film to get huge grain, yet, but I've seen pretty cool pictures by F. Patterson. He also often uses a diffuser with grainy film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_eve Posted August 26, 2003 Share Posted August 26, 2003 By your use of "autumn" I'd guess you may be in the UK ?? I've got some possibly mid '80's Kodak 1000 in the freezer, background level is a bit high but it's as grainy as hell ... there maybe some other stuff of interest there from past projects ... I'll have to check when I get home. Contact me off-list if you're interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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