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Heliar 36cm 4.5 lens info please...


nicholas_t.

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I am aware of the lens design. I've done a search and the photo.net

archives seem to be down.<p/>

The question I would like to ask is really in two parts:<p/>

Does anybody use this lens and if they do what sort of images do they

get from it? I know it is a highly thought of lens, but I'd love to

see something - even on the web.<p/>

The other question is typical, 'would anyone want to use such a lens

(buy one)?' if it was clean, no mould, scratch free, black paint, w/o

a shutter. The serial# 1035907 and is set in a mount ready for board

(I know this is a bad front for a for sale ad, but, it's

Friday?...).<p/>

I do not own this lens, it belongs to a friend of mine. He would love

to see it go to a good home (somewhere where it is used and not

fondled (too much anyway)). He was surprised when I said people use

these lenses and it has a really good reputation as a good sharp

lens. It has no shutter, it's in really good nick (unusual?), it was

made in 1937 (apparently), it doesn't seem to have a coating of any

kind - what do you people think?

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My first view camera a Bergheil MF had a 10,5cm Heliar. In old Days People loved it for portraiture etc. because it wasn`t called so cruely sharp as a tessar. If you have a 5x7 or similar you should at least borrow and shoot the lens. I used mine without any lenshood. it provided less contrast then others and I played around with 3 steps pushed HP5 films.
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I have one and I use it mainly for portraits with a "Luc" type shutter that fits on the front of the lens. Eventually I will add flash sync to this shutter, and I will probably use the lens more often. I don't have anything handily scanned from this particular lens, but the distinctive quality of a Heliar is very smooth rendering of out-of-focus areas combined with very sharp rendering of the in-focus area, producing a kind of three-dimensional effect.
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Your friend's lens would make an ideal 8x10 portrait lens, and are well regarded as

such, I use a 300mm on a 5x7 and am very pleased with it. That said, the uncoated

versions are less desirable, and don't sell for anywhere near as much as they are

"worth"; there have been a number of the 360s on ebay, and prices seem to be

around $100. Your lens was made in 1935, I think this means that it is the same

design as the coated versions (there were several design changes).

 

see:

 

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=004OCu

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=004kM9

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=004iVP

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Thanks Jason, very helpful. I don't think he's too worried about making a million dollars from it (good thing too), more curious that these lenses get used. Anyway one of those PUC shutters sounds like the way to go, if someone were to use it.<p/>

I am familiar with the actual lens design, which should (?) be a more highly corrected design than the Tessar. I thought the vintage would be close to being coated, but that those are called Color Heliar.

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