john_collier2 Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 http://www.leica-camera.com/produkte/msystem/mp/index_e.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william_m._sovie Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Does anyone know when the MP will be available to Canada and the USA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_poilu Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Arrggghhh.....another MP thread..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_poilu Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 <a href="http://www.leica-camera.com/produkte/msystem/mp/tecdat/index_e.html">And see here.</a> <p>This info seems to suggest this is the highest quality Leica yet built, a 5 year guarantee...better certainly than the M7....hmmmm?<p>They have even gone so far as to remove the TTL flash so the camera is truly non-battery dependant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Well, it looks like Leica finally got it's sh*t together. I have the very strong feeling that they remember the M5 fiasco well enough to not risk introducing the M7 without having an updated "M4-2" waiting in the wings. The Bessa, together with it's trigger base plate, no doubt were more incentive to not dilly dally with the introduction of a mechanical camera. What I don't understand, at least as far as the pro market, is not having a black chrome finish. It may not be so pretty but it holds up better than any paint. The neatest thing is that the web site promises parts support of the MP for 30 years! I guess that means our M2 and M3 bodies might have a longer life too, if the major assemblies will fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolfe_tessem Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 For those who are wondering, I understand that the MP price will be $2500 with the M7 price going up to $2700. It will be interesting to see how that affects the price of the M6 on the used market. Those prices have been pretty depressed lately with lots of people apparently selling or trading them in on the M7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 The M4 started out at the same price as the then still current M3 ~ $288.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Well, it looks like Leica finally got it's sh*t together. At last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m. Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 The chrome looks even nicer than the black, IMO. If the improvements in build quality mean it feels as good in the hand as an M2/3/4, then I predict that in the short term, at least, this camera could outsell the M7. I've never bought any new Leica gear yet, but this might be my first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik_l. Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Interesting to note that the shutter speed dial on the MP is now reverted back to the style of the M6 Classic. I sort of gathered (non-scientifically) that many USERS actually liked the shutter speed dial on the M6 TTL of the Classic...larger dial that spins the right way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_poilu Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 It spins the wrong way if you are a previous Leica user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 If it ain't broke don't fix it! It's been downhill since the M4. Maybe this is the return to traditional concepts in Leica design? Can an SL3 be far behind? Dang, and I sold all my 'flex glass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_couvillion Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 And best of all, they got rid of that damn red dot. ;>) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_.1 Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Agreed about the functional appearance, however the shutter speed dial is a mistake! Function over form! The M6 TTL's dial is right near the front face, rotates the correct direction, is large, but could the knurled surface of the MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider_. Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Where can I get a red dot to cover the adjustment screw on my MP? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert_keuken2 Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Have you seen that Leica has added a low-battery-warning to the finder information of the MP? When I sent my M6 classic for its first CLA after nine years of use I still was on my first set of batteries. It came back inserted with a new battery, but I don't think that was necessary, I like to believe that's standard procedure during a CLA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheridan Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 I recall MP's were distributed by Leitz only to working professionals. Looks like this new body is a good one. But I wonder how many memorable images will come out of these new MP's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier_reichenbach Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 FS - One roll of red dot tape and one roll of «MP» white engraving. Will nicely complement your ugly new all-black MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alec1 Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 I wonder if they'll be so picky now about the red dots. Maybe they'll sell us black LHSA dots now for our M6s (if they made enough). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annie999 Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 I read the product info and couldn't get over this one: "From today's point of view we cannot imagine that the Leica MP will ever be improved. Nevertheless we do guarantee that all services and spare parts will be available at Leica customer service departments for at least thirty afters after a possible model change." Could it be a clue to something new???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry_ting2 Posted March 2, 2003 Share Posted March 2, 2003 Although the MP just came out, but here's my prediction for the next 15 years. We'll see an MP-TTL (as in M6 and than the M6-TTL). We'll see an MP7 (as the M7, but with current MP look. We'll see the MP4, looks the same as the M4, but Leica wouldn't call it as the M4. And within these product release timeframe, we will see all kinds of limited, special commemorative editions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_poilu Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 Having downloaded the MP brochure the more I look at the spec etc the more impressed I become. This is absolutely the best Leica since the M4 and re-affirms Leica's position as the true manufacturer of stunning mechanical cameras.<p>This comes after the blips of the awful 'fiddled about with' backward step that was the TTL M6 and the unfourtunate, unfinished marrige of electronics held back by mechanics that is the M7. These two models are poor relations in the Leica family as were the M5 and CL.<p>As I say short of replacing the meter with a delayed action (or maybe in addition to) this is near perfect. What is most incredible is that Leica have paid so much attention it would seem to forums such as this; to quote from the brochure: "And because many Pros love the red Leica dot but discreetly cover it up on their cameras, we have dispensed with this round logo right from the start." They have even listened to the 'black tape' brigade! Also: "A new type of mirror and an additional lens elment...rich in contrast...clearly delinated bright-line frames...even with particularly critical lateral light." At last they listen to the complaints and re-instate the fameous 'removed' lens from the M4/3/2 etc to stop the dreaded flare. And of course the all-metal wind lever we all wanted is back as is a replacement for the awful M6 'leatherette'.<p>All in all I think there is going to be rather a glut of M6TTL's and perhaps even M7's on the secondhand market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapata_espinoza Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 Now, if they only could bring back the Leicaflex (SL3)??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 Yes it is a beauty. Removing the flare is the most important plus. I wish they would add back the self timer and then it would be perfect. I will miss the TTL flash capability as that is very nice if you use flash, but I can see the rationale. The chrome looks nicer than the standard chrome. If I get a new M then I would get the 0.85 version. Well done Leica. As other say - let us hope we now get an SL3! Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_kelly1 Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 By god, except for the meter it's just like an M3! Too bad I already have one :>))................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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