stefan_marquardt Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 hi all, so far I allway relied on guessing the right cc-filtration (a bit more or less magenta) for LF-interior work under fluerescent light. Now I am wondering if a colormeter would be a good investment? There are usualy the minolta colormeter II and III on the second hand market. Is there a big diffents between the two models (is the II good enough)? Any architectural photographer here with experience? thanks a lot! stefan marquardt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_walton2 Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 If your doing this kind of work full time and can justify, yes it is a good investment. Along with the meter, your investment will grow due to the need for wratten filters... As you are probably finding out, there are many different types of flouro light temps and if your having to shoot chromes your work is cut out. If you can shoot negs, your work is cut in half... If your shooting chrome/ negs and scanning and the final are electronic files, in PS you can easily take out seperate colors with the Hue and Saturation control panel which does a great job or in PS 7, the Auto color Balance will get you real close with just a little tweaking! With this in mind, save your money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Yes. it is especially useful for mixed light situations. I've had both Minolta color meters I like the IIIF much more: more information and it is more intuitive in use. It is a much better and more accurate meter , especailly if you use flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan_marquardt Posted February 11, 2003 Author Share Posted February 11, 2003 are you able to put -for example- a 20 or 30 magenta (or whatever you need) filter over the sensor till you get a 0 reading. or do you allways have to do those hoorid maths (not ever having used a color meter - that´s what using it sounds like to to me)? stefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted February 11, 2003 Share Posted February 11, 2003 Stefan,<P>You can do it that way. or you can use the direct filter recommendations indicated by the Minolta Color Meter IIIF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaps Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 Stefan, Also check out the Gossen Color Pro 3F. I am a full-time architectural photographer and personally, I prefer the Gossen. The meter displays the color temperature in degrees Kelvin, and also suggests filtration for both color correction (e.g. CC 35 Magenta) and color temperature adjustment (e.g. 81A). It is compact, reliable, and a necessary tool if you shoot LF architectural under flourescents, and other such sources. Also, the Gossen color meter allows you to enter a your personalized / tested film "neutral point" for your film -- for example, in the case that you find that your daylight film tests/looks neutral at 5300K. It works for both continuous light sources like daylight and tungsten, and also for strobe (and has the requisite PC connector for your hardwire synch cord or radio wizard type of cord). It is an eye-opener to see the actual color output of your strobes, etc. Great meter -- I highly recommend it. I bought mine from a well-known dealer in CA & it goes on every assignment with me. You will still need to bolster the CC reading with experience, but the color temp measurement is EXACT! It's a lifesaver for any location shooter! Best, Paul Chaplo, MFA (RIT) http://www.chaplo.com/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan_marquardt Posted February 15, 2003 Author Share Posted February 15, 2003 thanks paul, good tip. I just looked on their webpage because I couldn´t get any info on this meter. that´s because here in germany it is called colormaster 3f. I also found out, that the company Gossen is actually based just round the corner from me (well, Nürnberg - two hours drive). stefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpshiker Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 I use the Gossen 3F too and it's a good tool. But now that the slides pass through Photoshop, it is not as necessary as before. I often shoot with 64T or daylight film depending on what is the closest to the ambient lighting, and color correct in Photoshop. Recently I had a very difficult situation where shop displays were lit with tubes and some halogen spots, and there were bays in the roof from which the daylight was coming through. The slides were a mixture of blue areas from the daylight, green areas from the tubes and red areas from the quartz halogen! I had to color correct specific areas on different layers in Photoshop and could obtain nice looking images that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jos__javier_remacha Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 hi, i'am a future engineer doing a project based on creating a colormeter. i see that the actual minolta is expensive ans i intend to do ot for less. using a micropic trainer and three leds for each basic color, red green and blue. javi, pamplona, spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duc_nguyen2 Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 Helo ! i'm sorry to pry in ,, but i just got the Minolta auto meter II and i have no way in hell to use it , could any one help me find a manual for that . Thank you so much , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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