Lens for a Full Frame?

[hussain_al_lawati]

<p>Hello<br>

I am planning to upgrade to a full frame camera, 5dMKiii or 60D<br>

I photograph events, family, travel, birds, sports and some landscape. Low light capability is really important. My budget is around 6500 $<br>

Is the 5D really worth the extra money?</p>

<p>And for the lens<br>

I looked for the<br>

- Canon 70-200 f2.8 II <br>

- Canon 24-70 f 2.8 II (which might be above the budget)<br>

- Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 DI VC (I've read numerous reviews and found it is a better choice in respect to price and IS than the canon version)<br>

- Canon 28-300 <br>

- a sigma or tamron zoom lens of somewhere up to 500mm<br>

- you appreciated suggestions.<br>

- I can add a a 2x extender if i took the 70-200</p>

<p>Can you kindly give your opinions</p>

 

[dave_mockford]

<p>You say you are looking at a 60D, I guess you mean a 6D as the 60D is a crop sensor camera.</p>

[Robin Smith]

<p>The 6D is a better buy for general use in my opinion. You get equivalent, or ever so slightly better image quality than the 5DIII at a much keener price ($1000 less) in a smaller and lighter body (although the 5DIII has an extra 2 MP), However, if you really will be tracking fast moving objects (birds, sports) the 5DIII is the better option because its AF system is more sophisticated. Having said this, I take a lot of indoor sports and dance and I manage with the 6D just fine, but it would be better with the 5DIII. You should be aware that a new 5D is expected to be announced this month, so you may want to wait to see what is coming, although it will certainly cost >$3000.</p>

[dcstep]

<p>Start with the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS and the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS and an EF 1.4x TC-III. The 5D3 will be superior to the 6D for birds and sports; otherwise, the 6D has slightly better high-ISO performance. For birds and sports, the 5D3's superior AF trumps the slight disadvantage at ISOs over 3200.</p>

<p>Get a new 24-105mm as a "kit" purchase and add the 70-200mm new or used to fit your budget. For all your uses, f/4 is fine because either of these bodies has excellent high-ISO performance. Look for deals as we near the roll-out of a new 5D. At your stage of usage, you might look for a used 5D MkIII. You'll recover your investment, or close thereto, on resale, if you buy used "right." For instance, I've got a 5D3 for sale, just cleaned and serviced by CPS. It's only $500, but its got over 100,000-clicks.</p>

<p>I wouldn't go beyond the base kit that I've suggested until you see where your photography interests take you. You might move toward the longer end, if you start shooting more and more birds, or if yous sports are on big fields. OTOH, if you really get into landscapes, you'll start thinking about ultra-wide zooms. Give yourself two or three months with the new kit before plunging deeper.</p>

<p>These body/lens combinations are capable of world class IQ, so maximize your results by shooting in Raw and applying Digital Lens Optimization in Raw conversion. If you stick with Canon lenses, Digital Photo Professional, which comes with the body, will do this. For other lenses, DxO and Lightroom have DLO modules.</p>

<p>At 300mm, the 70-300mm Canon lenses will be at f/5.6, so you cannot put on a 2.0x TC; however, you can add a 1.4x. The speed of the AF will be slowed. I'm not sure, but I don't think that the 6D will AF at f/8. The 5D3 will AF at f/8. I shoot my EF 70-200mm very occasionally at f/8, with the EF 2.0x TC-III added. If you think you'll be really serious about birds the 100-400mm II is a better choice. It's probably not available used, but if you buy your other lenses and the body used, then you can fit within your $6,000. It's an exceptional lens. The investment is relatively high, but worth it, after you're certain that you're this serious.</p>

<p>Shot taken with EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II, at 312mm, hand held, on 5DsR (click on image to go to Flickr and see full-screen):</p>

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[Marcus Ian]

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<p>I photograph events, family, travel, <em><strong>birds, sports</strong></em> and some landscape. </p>

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For those two aspects, the 5D3 is probably worth it. For everything else, both will serve just fine</p>

[hussain_al_lawati]

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<p ><a href="/photodb/user?user_id=8711591">Dave Mockford</a> , Aug 05, 2016; 05:36 a.m.</p>

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<p>You say you are looking at a 60D, I guess you mean a 6D as the 60D is a crop sensor camera.</p>

 

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<p>Dear Dave,<br>

Yes, you are true. I mean the 6D</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

 

[hussain_al_lawati]

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<p ><a href="/photodb/user?user_id=23754">Robin Smith</a><a href="/member-status-icons"><img title="Subscriber" src="/v3graphics/member-status-icons/sub10plus.gif" alt="" /><img title="Frequent poster" src="/v3graphics/member-status-icons/2rolls.gif" alt="" /></a>, Aug 05, 2016; 09:48 a.m.</p>

 

<p>The 6D is a better buy for general use in my opinion. You get equivalent, or ever so slightly better image quality than the 5DIII at a much keener price ($1000 less) in a smaller and lighter body (although the 5DIII has an extra 2 MP), However, if you really will be tracking fast moving objects (birds, sports) the 5DIII is the better option because its AF system is more sophisticated. Having said this, I take a lot of indoor sports and dance and I manage with the 6D just fine, but it would be better with the 5DIII. You should be aware that a new 5D is expected to be announced this month, so you may want to wait to see what is coming, although it will certainly cost >$3000.</p>

 

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<p>Dear Robin,<br>

Thank you for your response<br>

I think that the new 5D would be much more above the budget.</p>

 

[hussain_al_lawati]

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<p ><a href="/photodb/user?user_id=5331729">David Stephens</a> <a href="/member-status-icons"><img title="Subscriber" src="/v3graphics/member-status-icons/sub8.gif" alt="" /><img title="Frequent poster" src="/v3graphics/member-status-icons/1roll.gif" alt="" /></a>, Aug 05, 2016; 12:27 p.m.</p>

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<p>Start with the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS and the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS and an EF 1.4x TC-III. The 5D3 will be superior to the 6D for birds and sports; otherwise, the 6D has slightly better high-ISO performance. For birds and sports, the 5D3's superior AF trumps the slight disadvantage at ISOs over 3200.<br>

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Shot taken with EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II, at 312mm, hand held, on 5DsR (click on image to go to Flickr and see full-screen):</p>

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<p>Dear David<br>

Thanks for the detailed information.<br>

I see that f/4 won't be enough in the (70-200 and 24-105) as i have tried using it in my events and football fields at night and missed lots of shots<br>

Dont you think"trying" a field and seeing if a have interest in it would cost me much more, because i will need to buy more lenses after my first purchase? Instead, what lenses you suggest that can help me with all those fields of photography?<br>

Thanking you</p>