martynas_kundrotas1 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 <p>Hello everyone,<br> I recently purchased a Nikon D750 and in certain conditions I noticed the colors are so off that I can't seem to recover them. It's as if some colors are missing completely, I mostly noticed this in scenes with a lot of green. Curiously enough I had a D7000 prior to this camera and I started having the same problem a while ago. I shoot only RAW and when I play with the TINT slider I get it to look ok, but still not completely right. So is this a software issue that can be solved or something more serious?<br> Here is an example of what I mean: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qm1ige0cq1s2im7/DSC_9254.jpg?dl=0<br> The JPG is saved in Adobe Standard profile, I can upload the RAW file if needed. Thank you for your help.<br> Martynas</p> <p> </p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Laur Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 <p>If you're working in the Adobe RGB color space and then displaying the images using a method that doesn't bother looking at or understanding that non-standard space, it's likely being displayed as if it were in the sRGB space, which will indeed make the colors look muted.<br /><br />The shot above looks under exposed, which of course will cause it to appear less vibrant. <br /><br />And: what software are you using as you work with these images? Are you using a well-calibrated display?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palouse Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 <p>What are your in-camera Picture Control settings?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Currie Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 <p>Isn't there some subject that you could use as a color chart? It would seem a lot easier to figure things out if you took a picture with large patches of known colors that can be studied. </p> <p>Or how about a blank white wall, and then reading the RGB histogram? </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag_miksch Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 <p>maybe you underexposure</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martynas_kundrotas1 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 <p>Thank you for all of your responses.<br> Matt Laur - I shoot in SRGB and when I open it in Photoshop it's set by default to AdobeRGB as the color profile. Well, I tried every other profile with no change at all. My display is not calibrated, but it's showing up with these colors in camera as well. I'm working with Lightroom mostly, but it looks the same in Camera Raw as well. I'm fine that the colors are not vibrant, I understand that you need to bring them out with editing, that's what RAW is for. But it doesn't look like something from a FLAT profile, it seems like it's something else.<br> Nick Sanyal - Since I'm shooting RAW I don't think the Picture Controls matter, you basically change them when opening them with your RAW editor.<br> Matthew Currie - Ok, I shot a blank wall, what should I look for in the Histogram?<br> Mag Miksch - Yes it is underexposed, but that shouldn't destroy the colors this way.</p> <p>The funny thing is that I have the same problem with the new camera as with the old one. So maybe it's not the camera? Could be it be lenses? Cards? Raw settings? I'm shooting in 12 bit RAW by the way.<br> Martynas</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martynas_kundrotas1 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 <p>Thank you for all of your responses.<br> Matt Laur - I shoot in SRGB and when I open it in Photoshop it's set by default to AdobeRGB as the color profile. Well, I tried every other profile with no change at all. My display is not calibrated, but it's showing up with these colors in camera as well. I'm working with Lightroom mostly, but it looks the same in Camera Raw as well. I'm fine that the colors are not vibrant, I understand that you need to bring them out with editing, that's what RAW is for. But it doesn't look like something from a FLAT profile, it seems like it's something else.<br> Nick Sanyal - Since I'm shooting RAW I don't think the Picture Controls matter, you basically change them when opening them with your RAW editor.<br> Matthew Currie - Ok, I shot a blank wall, what should I look for in the Histogram?<br> Mag Miksch - Yes it is underexposed, but that shouldn't destroy the colors this way.</p> <p>The funny thing is that I have the same problem with the new camera as with the old one. So maybe it's not the camera? Could be it be lenses? Cards? Raw settings? I'm shooting in 12 bit RAW by the way.<br> Martynas</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag_miksch Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 <blockquote> <p><em>Yes it is underexposed, but that shouldn't destroy the colors this way</em><br> <em> </em></p> </blockquote> <p><em><br /></em>Hmm, I think it does, how look pictures with right exposure?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_duren Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 <p>Go into Lightroom preferences and restore the settings to the factory default. If your are having this issue with multiple cameras it's most likely the software but I would also restore both cameras to their factory defaults.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_ Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 <p>Find a 'Photo Grey' card. Take a shot or two with the card in the scene. (Tinker between small spot - medium spot - matrix metering.) Check to see if you have STD set for color, and if AutoMode for color seems too green, try direct sunlight. Then check your images on your computer. The Grey card should be medium in color, and your other colors should be OK. If not, you might contact Nikon for where to send the camera in for service.</p> <p>Good luck.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Currie Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 <p>In answer above: when I shot a grayish-off-white wall with a camera whose sensor is not broken, when I looked at the RGB histogram (that's the one with a histogram for each of the three primary colors plus the white combined one) what I saw was that each of those three colors was pretty close to the same, and all were pretty close to the white combined one. I would expect a truly broken sensor to show some detectable difference in one color.</p> <p>That's a pretty coarse, quick and dirty test, but it seems reasonable that a truly bad sensor would show. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 What white balance are you using? This looks as if it could a WB issue. Auto WB will almost certainly be thrown by pointing it at a mainly green scene. Sorry if you're not using AWB, but I can't check your EXIF data on my mobile phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Currie Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 <p>No EXIF data attached on this file.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRCrowe Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 <p>Maybe try a few in camera jpeg photos to see what you get. That may confirm that it is or isn't a camera problem. Open the jpeg files with something other than Lightroom. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_behr Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 <p>Do a test. Go back to basics. I'am going to get belted here...Shoot jpeg, large fine, Auto WB, Active DL auto, sRGB, standard picture control. Open in View NX2 and the images will look boring but then you have a base to work from.<br> Then shoot them in RAW and Open in View NX2 again and apply your presets on the computer. Try Vivid picture control +3, and Sharpening +3 and see what you get.<br> Sometimes its not worth the effort to shoot in RAW with Nikon picture controls now so good. <br> What version of LR and ACR are you on? Personally I would stay away from Adobe RGB for the moment. It just complicates things. If what you get in ViewNX2 and LR are different then it points to software or settings in LR. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric_arnold Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 <p>i would shoot with active DL <em>off</em> until you can figure out what's really going on. it's supposed to correct for shadows, but can rob contrast and make things weird, if you don't expressly want that in your pics. at best it's a trick mode, which doesn't do anything you can't do yourself in post-, except it sets arbitrary values to tweak exposure, which can't be fine-tuned to taste. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 RAW files are agnostic to both white balance and colour space. So the NEF files should be able to be opened as sRGB or AdobeRGB and with any white balance. I'd suggest looking at any system-level colour profiles on your computer, as well as those forced in the Adobe software. IME, Adobe's colour handling can be very flakey and it's better to turn all of Adobe's profiles off and use proper hardware calibration instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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