a._dot Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Shooting two dimenssional work on a wall, 24 shift OM wide enough and other OM's, some wider than the 24. When tiff's or jpeg's are blown up projected on a 2m x2m panel, will it have huge difference which body? OK, 2x crop factor meanscfurther away from the subject, but also sharp edge to edge. Is the mk ll worth the extra money. Pen F, will 60mpxls have that much of a difference? The old E-P1 focused great with all lenses. The Sony A7 I tried couldn't do live view with old slr lenses: "...lensnot attached properly...". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Katz Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 For static subjects shot from a sturdy tripod, the high resolution (40mp) feature of the E-M5II should produce a materially better image than using standard resolution on that camera or using the E-M5. Note that the field of view when using the 24mm lens on any M43 camera would be equivalent to 48mm on a 35mm film or FF sensor. In my opinion, the additional resolution of the new Pen F is not worth the additional cost (based on current pricing) compared with an E-M5II. I don't own a Sony "A" series camera, but I have never heard of it being incompatible with most legacy 35mm lenses. Perhaps there was an issue with the adapter or camera settings that you tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a._dot Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 I used the red highlight/manual focusing aid in the camera, just don't know if it could get a tad better zoom focusing on live view. Sony is a full frame, nice cam, just not Olympus. I could easily keep the Sony, but always had a thing about Olympus. Ben using the EP series for 5 years now, familiar with stepoing back with the 24 shift. What they used to say back in the early 90's, that the closer you get with an slr the better the resolution isn't exactly true with digital anymore, is it? Not sure there. Even though I dig Olympus and had it for 5+, x2 cf is way further from the subject. What do yoy think. I mean digital full frame vs digital x2 crop, plus Oly 40mmega pixls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Katz Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Either with film or digital, I still believe that if your photos aren't good enough, then get closer. A FF sensor is 4x the size (in area) of an m43 sensor, so for resolution, dynamic range, and high ISO performance, FF will always have a significant advantage over m43. I use m43 because of the size and weight advantage over larger sensor options, but there will always be an image quality difference and FF will usually have a wider shooting envelope than m43. Any of the 16mp Olympus cameras will have a significant image quality advantage over the 12mp m43 cameras, so a new EM-5II will dramatically outperform your E-P1 in a every way. The high res options are only currently usable for static subjects shot on a tripod, so it is not something usable hand held. FF or m43; its up to you, your shoulder, neck and back, and your wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a._dot Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 What ever you buy has to do with your wallet. I buy used, but I know I am paying. Thing is,do the 40 mpixl on a tripod of coyrse, shooting paintings always requires this, outperform the full frame A7 24mpixl, using the same 24mm shift, twicw as closer to the painting? Well the 2x cf also gets closer to the painting, not physically, but sensor wise, zoom wise, and twice as much digitally like in 40mp. Who is the winner on the same lens, in resolution, detail? I think the adge to edge winning of the 2x sensor isn't that important, but how much is it this an issue regarding the comparison? I think I've found a better title for the thread? Lens/cam closer, or mpixl size more important-on a good tripod, with both cams accomodating live view, same iso, same conditions? Interesting test... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harold_gough Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 <p>I bought a slightly-used A7R last week. The first thing I did was to put my OM 24mm shift on it. The two were made for each other. No problem with the lens working with the viewer.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a._dot Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 Yeap No problem here with the zoom live view either. Found a way to fix it. Magnification is lower than it was on the EP-1. Live view was easier to focus with on the Olympus. However focusing using the red highlights aid is close to maximum success. Just an Olympus person, that's all. Tried to become a Sony, but didn'work. If Olympus had a different name I'd still go with the EM5 II, not an epl, not an EM10. Still, I don't think I am buying the EM5 ll until selling the A7, so I probably won't be able to test to compare. Instictively, I d go with the EM 5 II. Got film cameras for full frame wide angle shots, including other fl's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harold_gough Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 <p>I have a favourite test shot for lenses. I go to the end of our drive and take a shot with a house, hedges and a school sign (fine, contrasty detail) in the frame. I then record the technical details in the file name. If you have a suitable view you could takes shots before parting with the A7 and then take similar ones with the replacement camera. Not ideal but quite useful. It is worth doing some blue sky and some overcast shots.<br> If you wish to check for flare, some subject with a strong light behind it is needed.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a._dot Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 The M8 is better than the A7. But I don't own an EM5vll yet to compare. The moment I get the Olympus I would have already parted the A7. Could you post some of the tests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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