westphoto Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I was just given a Nikon N2020. It's mostly happy. Film loads, focuses, and the mirror flaps. But the shutter doesn't seem to be interested in the slightest. Picking shutter speeds makes no difference. I can have it open and press the little lever so it will fire, and the shutter doesn't flinch. Only other oddity (which may just be the camera) is it hesitates for a bit and does some flashing of the led before it starts to focus, but then it just goes about as quick as it can as long as you play with the shutter release often enough. Is there anything that I'm missing, or would you guess the shutter is just dead. I can upload videos or pictures if anything else needs to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Seaman Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 <p>Chris it does sound as if the shutter is faulty. And it's almost certainly not worth having repaired, as these older AF film SLR's can be acquired nowadays for much less than potential repair cost, owners having sold the lenses for use on digital cameras.</p> <p>If you decided to look for a replacement camera to use with the lens, perhaps try and get hold of an F90 or F90X (N90/S). They are built to semi professional standards with fast auto focus and a very accurate exposure system, and they and run off four cheap AA batteries. Just be prepared for a messy hour or so getting the sticky coating off the back. The F801 (N8008) is another good film camera with similar qualities.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 <p>There are some cameras that will go through the motions, but not open the shutter, when the battery is low. I don't know that the N2020 is one of those, but have you checked the battery?</p> <p>Also, there are some that go to one usable shutter speed without a battery, but you should be able to see the shutter open if you have one of those. </p> <p>Many cameras from that era are available for very low prices, especially without a lens, but often even with one. Some people find the mechanical shutter cameras from a little earlier more fun, but you should be able to have plenty of fun with ones like the N2020. </p> -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_momary Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Chris ... Did you try setting the actual film speed or rely on the auto DX setting? Sometime with other bodies all sorts of gremlins occur if the DX detection fails to read the film speed. Simple to try if you already haven't. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_wheatland Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 <p>The shutter in this camera only operates once film has advanced to exposure number one! This is on of my favorite AF multi program Nikons. Caveat: use only AF or AIS lenses as a tiny pin on the body mount can catch on other lenses creating a locked lens problem. To check shutter action remove lens close back and fire camera. After the third release the shutter will fire!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westphoto Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 <p>I have made sure to try it off of the DX setting. I'm putting it in fully manual mode. M on the front, single shot up top, 125th shutter. And it does move through the auto-advance at the beginning, and then just goes about shooting. I've put a roll in just to make sure and I'm assuming the shutter still isn't doing anything because all of the symptoms are still there and changing the shutter speed still doesn't change a thing. I was looking at a video of one that works properly, and it looks like my shutter is in a different position at rest than it should be. I'm guessing a little ways into the travel. Here, <a href=" F501 AF 35mm SLR Film Camera Overview / Review</a>. I can see the arms connecting the shutter blades on the right in it's current state. Interestingly, I can gently push down on the blades with a pocket knife and they move without a problem, but I'm guessing something's stuck keeping it from returning up to the proper rest position.</p> <p>If anyone knows anything about repairing these guys, it does seem to be giving me some manner of error report. I was thinking it was just a DX things since that's all the consumer manual mentions for the LED on the top left, but any time you touch the shutter release, it barely lights, and there's a chunky noise from inside (sounds about like an electric motor trying and hitting an obstacle), and then it flashes rapidly ten times (or so).</p> <p>I'd be happy to take a stab at opening it up and fixing it myself if anyone has access to a repair manual or just knows what to do. Seems like a pretty spiffy little camera if I could just get the shutter to move.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westphoto Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 <p>I do also need to check some nice fresh batteries. The batteries that are in it seem fine, but I'm going to get some nice new ones just to make sure.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westphoto Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 <p>Ok, I just tried it out with my power supply (the batteries were reading a little low). The motor definitely sounded like it was trying harder, but still no luck.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 <p>http://collectiblend.com/Cameras/Nikon/Nikon-N2020.html</p> <p>gives the average body-only value of $10 to $20. </p> <p>That is less than just about all I can remember, many being $20 to $30. </p> <p>It might cost more than that for shipping from most eBay sellers.<br> My favorite source for no shipping cameras is Goodwill auctions from the nearest store that does them, either shopgoodwill.com, or as an eBay seller. (The one near me uses both.)</p> <p>Last year I got a Canon T80 for $17. (The starting bid was $10, so someone else was interested.)<br> Often enough, I can get good cameras for $10, plus tax, and no shipping.</p> <p>http://www.ebay.com/itm/301838859044</p> <p>is almost done, but has no bids for $12.50, free shipping.</p> -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westphoto Posted January 9, 2016 Author Share Posted January 9, 2016 Oh, I'm not terribly worried about fixing/replacing it. Just looking to see if anyone has any clues. It seems like something minor. I had AE-1s that wouldn't shoot, total loss according to just about every account, but turned out to just be one contact slightly out of place. She'll sit patiently on the shelf for the lucky day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 <p>I think the going rate for the AE1 is somewhat more:</p> <p>http://collectiblend.com/Cameras/Canon/Canon-AE-1.html</p> <p>says $80 to $90. </p> <p>Yes, there are some things that can be done easily. But if you have to pay someone, it will very likely be more than $10.</p> -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westphoto Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 <p>So I've paid a little more attention and done a little more research, and I'm now under the impression that the shutter is not cocking.</p> <p>Again, if anyone has any details on disassembly or how this auto-winding camera is supposed to operate, I'd love to hear them.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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