Newbie question about lightroom developing

[ridinhome]

<p>Hello all,</p>

<p>Apologies if this is a relatively basic question.</p>

<p>I shot a bunch of photographs recently on vacation, and had my camera (Fuji XE1) film simulation set to "Velvia" (I was shooting Raw + JPEG). When I imported the images into LR (5.7) it appears to create preview based on the JPEG, but then renders the RAW using a LR default. In almost every instance the RAW is flat. Is there any way to have LR render the RAW keeping the JPEG settings, or do I need to find a Develop preset for that?<br>

Thanks,<br>

Kayam</p>

[Wouter Willemse]

<p>You typically need a develop preset for that. I don't know for Fuji, but possibly the raw editing program delivered with the camera is capable of retaining camera settings for the 'default raw rendering'; Adobe's software (or any of the other 3rd party as far as I know/used them) does not.</p>

[digitaldog]

That is to be expected. The picture style is only applied to the JPEG. As to the dull default look of the raws, fixed by

updating the default settings for a more appropriate rendering of that data.

[howard_m]

<p>Andrew, would the following workflow 'work' ?</p>

<p>shoot jpeg of Colorchecker w/ camera set to some picture style, ie. 'Vivid', pull that jpg into ACR and save it as .dng. Use that .dng as basis for a 'vivid' camera profile via Passport software or Adobe Profile Editor that would match (sorta) the jpeg thus giving you the ability to shoot raw but process it to yield a 'vivid' rendition.</p>

[Ed_Ingold]

<p>Lightroom is not smart enough to interpret camera settings used to produce internal jpeg images. Sometimes proprietary software supplied for that camera, like Nikon NX, does a better job. If you like, you can designate a particular set of adjustments in Lightroom as a default for all RAW images. Since not all images benefit from the same treatment, divide your pictures into groups with similar requirements, adjust one, and synchronize those settings to others in that group. In either case, Lightroom adjustments are completely non-destructive, until exported to a new image with settings in place. "Non-desctructive" applies to TIFF and JPEG images too, not just RAW images.</p>

[digitaldog]

<p>With an Adobe workflow, one <em>could</em> mimic camera JPEG processing with a custom (and/or edited) DNG profile. That's the reason some cameras include various options (<em>Vivid</em>, <em>Natural</em> etc) which were built by Adobe. But you can roll your own, for free as discussed above. <br>

Then ask yourself, what's correct about the JPEG? It's just one different interpretation, in this context how the camera converted the raw data. You can do the same or go a totally different direction. It's why so many shoot raw; we want to control the rendering of the '<em>print</em>' (see: http://www.lumita.com/site_media/work/whitepapers/files/pscs3_rendering_image.pdf) </p>

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<p>Lightroom is not smart enough to interpret camera settings used to produce internal jpeg images.</p>

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<p>It's proprietary processing! NO 3rd party converter is '<em>smart enough</em>' to interpret those proprietary settings. If that's important to you, stick with the raw converter from the camera manufacturer or just shoot JPEG (let the camera do a lot of the work photographers have chosen to do themselves). <br>

<em>IF</em> the camera manufacturers wanted other's to be '<em>smart enough'</em> to use proprietary metadata, they could do so. Don't make it proprietary.<br>

FWIW, LR and ACR (and similar) are not really <em>non-destrcitive</em> when applied to TIFF or JPEG. There IS data loss (unlike rendering directly from raw). The original may be untouched, but the iteration run through the processing engine does suffer data loss. </p>

[Spearhead]

<p>You should see if there are develop profiles in Lightroom for your camera. I know they are there for similar Fuji models. Open a photo taken with that camera. On the right hand side of LR, open Camera Calibration. Click on the Profile that is selected and see if Velvia is there.</p>

[ridinhome]

<p>Thanks everyone!</p>

<p>Wouter - you'd also responded to a different thread about Fuji dealers in Florence - thanks so much! I ended up going to Bongi.</p>

[EricM]

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<p>You should see if there are develop profiles in Lightroom for your camera. I know they are there for similar Fuji models. Open a photo taken with that camera. On the right hand side of LR, open Camera Calibration. Click on the Profile that is selected and see if Velvia is there.</p>

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+1 to this, Jeff nailed it. If you google <a href="https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ie=UTF-8&q=fuji%20camera%20calibration%20profiles%20for%20the%20film%20simulation%20modes">"Fuji Camera Calibration Profiles for the Film Simulation Modes"</a> you will find the rest of the info. A helpful link http://www.fujivsfuji.com/adobes-fujifilm-camera-calibration-profiles/<br>

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