joe_hunt1 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 <p>I want a compact lens for my EF-S APS-C format but the 40mm is too long, tranlating as 60mm. Does anyone know if Canon is planning something around 24mm (pancake style) for this format?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arie_vandervelden1 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 <p>Try looking for an old EF 24/2.8 non-IS. At 270g it's a pretty small lens.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 <p>Canon knows. Nobody else does. I suspect you shouldn't hold your breath for one though.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massimo_foti Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 <p>It would be nice to see the EF-M 22 mm ported to EF-S mount, but, like Bob suggested, I am not holding my breath :-)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles_wass Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 <p>I do not see how Canon could make a 24mm pancake to fit EF-S when the register (flange to sensor) distance is 44mm. For this register 24mm lenses have to be retrofocus, even, I would expect, with the opportunity to extend towards the mirror in the APS-C models.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_hunt1 Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 <p>Thanks for comments, and I think Charles must have made a very valid point regarding the optics of a pancake lens :-(</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbert Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 <blockquote>I do not see how Canon could make a 24mm pancake to fit EF-S when the register (flange to sensor) distance is 44mm. For this register 24mm lenses have to be retrofocus, even, I would expect, with the opportunity to extend towards the mirror in the APS-C models.</blockquote> <p>Pentax make a 21 mm f3.2 pancake for their APS-C sensor, so it is possible.</p> <p>In relation to the OP, Canon have show little interest in developing EF-S primes, with the 60 f2.8 macro being the only one I can think of and that is years old. Ironically that lens could have been made an EF lens without much compromise to its size.</p> <p>Lately Canon have been focussed on pro-oriented lenses withn their Mark II L program and pro-priced consumer lenses such as the new IS USM primes. They seem to have gone very quiet in relation to EF-S and EF-M.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 <p>Voigtlander make pancaky 28 and 21mm lenses for FF too, so it is quite possible.</p> Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 <p>You can get an EOS-M with a 22mm Pancake for $350. I'm guessing that an EF-S pancake 22mm lens would cost more than that. So just buy the EOS-M kit!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_hunt1 Posted October 29, 2013 Author Share Posted October 29, 2013 <p>I totally prefer an eye-level VF, either EVF or optical, so the EOS-M wouldn't suit. For compactness I've now ordered an EOS 100D and 40mm even though it's a long focal length (at equiv. 64mm) for the APS-C and has no IS. As I've another EOS body and a couple of lenses already it seemed a fairly economic option.<br /> I would really prefer the Fuji X-E2 (at greater cost) with an 18mm or 27mm, but they're not IS either - although less in need of IS than the EOS 40mm.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 <blockquote> <p>Lately Canon have been focussed on pro-oriented lenses withn their Mark II L program and pro-priced consumer lenses such as the new IS USM primes. They seem to have gone very quiet in relation to EF-S and EF-M.</p> </blockquote> <p>Well, maybe pianissimo. Canon updates their budget EF-S zooms, e.g., 18-55, 18-135 and 55-250, every year or two.</p> <p>I used the EF 24 2.8 on APS-C as a walk around for years and it's sharp and really small. A half inch shorter pancake design would be inconsequential for most shooters.</p> Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_hunt1 Posted October 30, 2013 Author Share Posted October 30, 2013 <p>With reference to the last comment above (which I,m sorry to say I don't know how to import in the accepted format):<br> "Well, maybe pianissimo. Canon updates their budget EF-S zooms, e.g., 18-55, 18-135 and 55-250, every year or two. I used the EF 24 2.8 on APS-C as a walk around for years and it's sharp and really small. A half inch shorter pancake design would be inconsequential for most shooters."<br> The current EF 24mm f.2.8 at 55.7mm is over twice as long and over twice the weight of the 40mm pancake. If that's insignificant I might as well go back to the versatiile 18-55mm kit lens, which is a good bit lighter than the 24mm and just over 1/2" longer! </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 <p>[[The current EF 24mm f.2.8 at 55.7mm is over twice as long and over twice the weight of the 40mm pancake.]]</p> <p>He is talking about the original non-IS 24mm f/2.8 which is 48mm and 270g. I've also been using that lens on APS-C and have found it an excellent combination. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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