Adobe Photoshop

[keith reeder]

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<p>Don't know, I feel more comfortable with a CD in case something goes wrong.</p>

 

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<p>So you download the software and write a copy of the install file to a CD or DVD as your back-up - it's what people have been doing for years.</p>

<p>As Charles says, you can't run any Adobe product (or anything else worth using) from a CD, so all we can be talking about here is physical back-up of the software, and that's down to us.</p>

[EricM]

<p><strong>"As Charles says, you can't run any Adobe product (or anything else worth using) from a CD, so all we can be talking about here is physical back-up of the software, and that's down to us."</strong><br>

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Backing up an .exe is a bit different than having an .iso.<br>

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I don't mind either way</p>

[angkordave]

<p>The big problem for me living in SE Asia is that Adobe wont ship or allow downloads to the country that I live in. This applies to Thailand, Cambodia, Myanmar and Vietnam I believe. I came here may years ago with a Photoshop licence; but Adobe refused to ship to Cambodia due to licensing restrictions I was very angry about that as I needed to use this product and was unable to upgrade.<br /> The only way for me to get a legitimate Adobe product was to get someone in a place where boxed software is available; like UK for example. The box states:<br>

" Only for distribution in the EEC and Switzerland. Adobe does not consent to the distribution or sale of this product anywhere other than EEA and Switzerland"<br>

This is an insane restrictive practice and makes me really angry to think that I will have to use a product illegally even though it was genuinely purchased.<br>

Now what is going to happen now with the subscription licence?<br>

If I can purchase online (which I can't now) that’s OK; but given the intrangancy of Adobe and its distribution rules over the last 10 years; I am not optimistic.<br>

Adobe are justifiably concerned about piracy; but if people cannot get the genuine product they are more likely to get pirated software.</p>

[angkordave]

<p>The big problem for me living in SE Asia is that Adobe wont ship or allow downloads to the Country that I live in. This applies to Thailand, Cambodia, Myanmar and Vietnam I believe. I came here may years ago with a Photoshop licence; but Adobe refused to ship to Cambodia due to licensing restrictions I was very angry about that as I needed to use this product and was unable to upgrade.<br /> The only way for me to get a legitimate Adobe product was to get someone in a place where boxed software is available; like UK for example. The box states:<br>

" Only for distribution in the EEC and Switzerland. Adobe does not consent to the distribution or sale of this product anywhere other than EEA and Switzerland"<br>

This is an insane restrictive practice and makes me really angry to think that I will have to use a product illegally even though it was genuinely purchased.<br>

Now what is going to happen now with the subscription licence?<br>

If I can purchase online (which I cant now) that’s OK; but given the intrangancy of Adobe and its distribution rules over the last 10 years; I am not optimistic.<br>

Adobe are justifiably concerned about piracy; but if people cannot get the genuine product they are more likely to get pirated software.</p>

[angkordave]

<p>The big problem for me living in SE Asia is that Adobe wont ship or allow downloads to the country that I live in. This applies to Thailand, Cambodia, Myanmar and Vietnam I believe. I came here may years ago with a Photoshop licence; but Adobe refused to ship to Cambodia due to licensing restrictions I was very angry about that as I needed to use this product and was unable to upgrade.<br /> The only way for me to get a legitimate Adobe product was to get someone in a place where boxed software is available; like UK for example. The box states:<br>

" Only for distribution in the EEC and Switzerland. Adobe does not consent to the distribution or sale of this product anywhere other than EEA and Switzerland"<br>

This is an insane restrictive practice and makes me really angry to think that I will have to use a product illegally even though it was genuinely purchased.<br>

Now what is going to happen now with the subscription licence?<br>

If I can purchase online (which I can't now) that’s OK; but given the intrangancy of Adobe and its distribution rules over the last 10 years; I am not optimistic.<br>

Adobe are justifiably concerned about piracy; but if people cannot get the genuine product they are more likely to get pirated software.</p>

[angkordave]

<p>The big problem for me living in SE Asia is that Adobe wont ship or allow downloads to the country that I live in. This applies to Thailand, Cambodia, Myanmar and Vietnam I believe. I came here may years ago with a Photoshop licence; but Adobe refused to ship to Cambodia due to licensing restrictions I was very angry about that as I needed to use this product and was unable to upgrade.<br /> The only way for me to get a legitimate Adobe product was to get someone in a place where boxed software is available; like UK for example. The box states:<br>

" Only for distribution in the EEC and Switzerland. Adobe does not consent to the distribution or sale of this product anywhere other than EEA and Switzerland"<br>

This is an insane restrictive practice and makes me really angry to think that I will have to use a product illegally even though it was genuinely purchased.<br>

Now what is going to happen now with the subscription licence?<br>

If I can purchase online (which I can't now) that’s OK; but given the intrangancy of Adobe and its distribution rules over the last 10 years; I am not optimistic.<br>

Adobe are justifiably concerned about piracy; but if people cannot get the genuine product they are more likely to get pirated software.</p>

[geoffs1]

<p><a href="/photodb/user?user_id=525441">Steve J Murray</a> <a href="/member-status-icons"><img title="Subscriber" src="/v3graphics/member-status-icons/sub10plus.gif" alt="" /><img title="Frequent poster" src="/v3graphics/member-status-icons/1roll.gif" alt="" /></a>, Mar 16, 2013; 12:44 p.m. Geoff, there is no discount/upgrade to CS6 unless you already have CS5. ...</p>

<p>Sorry, I wasn't clear. For my price-comparison I assumed Adobe would release a new version every year that you have to upgrade to. I think that's a bit pessimistic (i.e. new versions of PS come out a bit less frequently that every year).</p>

<p>A longer "new version cycle" just makes the comparison even less favorable to the subscription model. For example, if the new-version interval is 18 months, then the "upgrade every new version" yearly cost is $133 ($200/1.5).</p>

<p>My guess is that Adobe will increase the upgrade price and/or reduce the new version interval to make purchasing more expensive than subscribing (they could reduce the subscription price - yeah, right!).</p>

[David_Cavan]

<p>I haven't bought a "physical" copy of any software for years - at least since 2008 when all of our trans-continental moving started and it was a pain to consider packing up those over-sized boxes with one or two CD's and a paper manual. Whenever I download the executables I do a "save as" to a find-able library, and include it in my weekly backups. That way I've got a copy of the executable and can start over again easily, and have had to do that a couple of times. I consider it my small contribution to saving the planet :)</p>

<p>I do believe the subscription process is coming upon us, and it will be the undoing of some software solutions. There's a tolerance we all have and it may not go well for expensive products like photoshop where I can get something for a fraction of the price that does 90% of what that solution offers.</p>

[Charles_Webster]

<p>+1 to what David C just said. Backup the downloadable file(s) and you'll be good. I worked for a software company for years, they'll tell you the same thing. The last company I worked for doesn't even offer physical media anymore. No manuals, no disks, no packaging, nothing. Our advice to customers what that they make a copy of the downloadable(s) onto physical media if they needed a backup. But we offered downloadable copies of all versions of our software for our registered customers. So they could always get a new copy of an old version.<br>

<Chas><br /><br /></p>

[J.W. Wall]

<p>We travel a lot and have only wifi, with a 6GB/month limit. Downloading massive software is not appealing.</p>

[szrimaging]

<p>J.W., The point isn't to be constantly downloading it, you download once and install. Surely you can go to a coffee house, and sit there one day for a couple of hours as your software downloads, right?</p>

<p>Ok, sarcasm aside, I'm on the fence about this download thing. I live in rural mid-west USA, in the middle of farm fields. To say my access to high-speed is limited is putting it mildly. Seems the city dwelling folks who control the tech companies forget that not everyone enjoys the same kind of access they do.</p>

[james_de_h]

<p>My greatest concern is that Adobe will only allow paying on subscription for software like CS6. Although this should mean your software is always the latest version the flip side is that you keep on paying even if you do not want or need the latest developments. I hate paying for stuff on a drip too. It is all too easy to overlook a monthly debit, so you can end up paying more than you need. As to downloads, I do these overnight. That is still faster than waiting for a box to be delivered. </p>

[angkordave]

<p>One question I do have about the subscription process and that is what happens if you stop subscribing?<br>

Am I correct in thinking that the Software will cease to function?<br>

Or would it still work but not update?<br>

My guess is the former; but that does open the possibility that Adobe could increase pricing significantly after a lower initial price to get people to subscribe. That does put the customer at the mercy of the supplier.</p>

[james_de_h]

<p>Give Adobe a call. In my case it was cheaper to pay for an upgrade up front than subscribe to CS6. </p>

[david_henderson]

<p>For the amount of money Adobe charge they could easily continue to offer their customers a choice of buying the way we prefer. "Greener" is a bogus cover-up for them simply wanting to make more. It appears that there's nobody greedier than those making a pile of money now.</p>