clay2 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 <p>http://www.petapixel.com/2012/10/27/nikon-photo-contest-no-longer-accepts-photos-shot-using-film-cameras/<br> /Clay</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_cheshire Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 <p>The swine.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigd Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 <p>The message clearly is this: You guys still shooting film aren't giving us enough money. Throw out your old film cameras and buy a nice new Nikon digital camera.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcuknz Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 <p>Digital cannot compete with film? :-)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB_Gallery Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I wrote NPS to find out why on earth they would do something that ill thought out. I don't enter contests but what a lame move... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kahn Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 <p>All my serious shooting has been digital for several years, and I still think this sucks.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randrew1 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 <p>How easy would it be to spot a high quality scan of 8x10 sheet film? Certainly scans of 35 mm film are recognizable because film grain looks different from digital noise. You would have to fill in the exif data. </p> <p>What does the ban on film images do for Nikon? Over 90% of the entries would probably be digital. Would they be embarrassed if a film image happened to win?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 <p>Nikon... bite me.</p> <p>Yeh, yeh, I'll still review your stupid V2 (assuming you're not actually reading this comment, in which case, LOL, just kidding, pretend I'm <a href="http://www.kenrockwell.com/analprobe/dissent.htm">Ken Rockwell</a>). And I'll probably even like the stupid thing. And probably even buy the smaller stupid J1 or stupid J2 because I really need a stupid small, fast stupid digicam and those models have some great stupid features at a stupid cheap price now. And I really, really need your stupid lens based VR because of my stupid shaky hands.</p> <p>But still, Nikon... just... <a href=" me</a>.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starvy Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 <p>Perhaps Ron is right. A film winning image might not be commercially profitable.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I wasn't going to enter that, but maybe now I'll enter some film scans with the metadata removed and see if they can tell the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmeade Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 <p>There's a new Kodak app giving details about their film. A review of the app described film users as Luddites, which was nice.<br> <a href="http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/10/26/luddites-delight-kodak-debuts-film-finding-app-for-ios">http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/10/26/luddites-delight-kodak-debuts-film-finding-app-for-ios</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 <blockquote> <p>"I wasn't going to enter that, but maybe now I'll enter some film scans with the metadata removed and see if they can tell the difference."</p> </blockquote> <p>Heck, you can fake metadata pretty convincingly. One method is to open a digital camera file, copy another image on top completely masking the original, then resave. I've done this as a prank for a friend (to make their photos seem to have been taken in an entirely different geolocation). There are probably ways to figure out when this has been done, but it's good enough to fool most folks.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qalam Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 This year Nikon has let the other shoe drop. In recent years, MF and LF film was already banned, leaving only 35mm. When a camera maker runs a photo contest, the purpose is to attract customers; it has nothing much to do with promoting the art of photography. There are still hundreds of photo contests every year that have no restriction on film, although many of them are promoting some special interest through their contests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_levine Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 <p>Digital is the greatest thing ever for companies like NIKON. Previously, they could only sell me a new (film) camera about every ten years. And I'm still using the ones they sold me 40 yrs ago. with digital, in order to keep up with even the bottom rung of state of the art. One needs a new camera every 2-3 years. after which time the damn things are worth 1/3rd of what you paid.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 <blockquote> <p>One needs a new camera every 2-3 years. after which time the damn things are worth 1/3rd of what you paid.</p> </blockquote> <p> <br> Here we go again...I use two digital cameras that are now over four years old. I get published in print and on the web with them, I print to 20"x30". There is no "need" to get a new camera. Also, one of them, bought new, is worth about 50% of what it cost new after five years, the other about 60% of what it cost when I bought it used three years ago.</p> Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossb Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 <blockquote> <p>One needs a new camera every 2-3 years. after which time the damn things are worth 1/3rd of what you paid.</p> </blockquote> <p> Not the way I do things. I just buy an item and use it for as long as it will last. The good value in an item comes from many years of service. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_waller Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 <p>The only acceptable photographs are those which prove that the photographer is contributing to Nikon's bottom line. Me, I continue to use FMs and FEs.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member69643 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 <p>I believe the real issue is that you can not verify that a film-created image was actually made using a Nikon camera. You might be able to fake some Exif data on digital images, but I doubt you could get a non-Nikon image past one of the judges.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 <p>I don't think the contest requires you to use Nikon equipment, aside from the motion-photo category that seems to be requiring files from Nikon 1 cameras.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve m smith Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 <blockquote> <p>I believe the real issue is that you can not verify that a film-created image was actually made using a Nikon camera</p> </blockquote> <p>Why would it matter. It isn't restricted to just Nikon cameras. If it was, medium and large format digital would not be allowed.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member69643 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 <p>Well, if it isn't "limited" to Nikon I guarantee, no non-Nikon image will win the thing. </p> <p>Just sayin'! :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylynn Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 <p>In last year's results I saw dozens and dozens of photos and maybe 2 had mentions that they were shot with Nikon gear. The FAQ also says specifically that use of Nikon gear isn't required. Which makes it all the more confusing - go ahead and use a Canon, just as long as it's digital. Don't even think about using that F6, 24-70 and Coolscan 9000 you bought new last year.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wogears Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 <p>Checked the EXIF on a number of recent winners. Most were indeed shot with Nikons (mostly D70, D40x and D300!), but one was shot with a 5D MkII. (Sample very unscientific)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_swinehart Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 <p>I don't understand all the whining. It's Nikon's contest - they can make up whatever rules they want and you're all free to participate or not. You don't like it - organize your own "film only" contest.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 <blockquote> <p>"...organize your own "film only" contest."</p> </blockquote> <p><em>Implying film fanatics have organizational skills. Or money. Or shower regularly.</em></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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