bruno_gaurish Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Ok, my gear today is the canon 5d mk2 with the 24/70 f2.8 It is just the best i can have for my style of photos. (the only thing i wish i had is a complete silent mode like the M9 leica) BUT i am getting old and it is quite heavy... So i look at the mirrorless for some times. It seems that some models are getting decent IQ even in high iso (i shoot a lot with low light) So if you are familiar with these small cameras, will you share a bit of your knowledge? What i need is: (of course) best IQ and auto focus possible (i know, it is not a 5dmk2) I want a zoom 24/70 as fast as possible (i know, prime lenses... but i' just not friendly with them) strong built, 16Mp so i can crop a lot... Other gadgets are not very important. SO i have seen the new olympus OM-D and the fuji X PRO 1 The olympus seems to have all i need, it shows a quite good IQ at 3200iso: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/olympusem5/9 your opinion? Thanks a lot bruno www.shaktimage.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno_gaurish Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 Forgot i thing: i won't buy a leica... too expensive + not so good in high iso / low light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce_rubenstein Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 <blockquote> <p>I want a zoom 24/70 as fast as possible</p> </blockquote> <p>Currently, there are no fast, dedicated zooms for either camera. I have an E-5M and I can't imagine hanging a fast (heavy) zoom off the end of it without the add on grip.</p> <p>What you do with your images will determine whether or not the IQ of the Olympus at 3200 is "good".</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wouter Willemse Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 <p>At present, there is no zoom available yet for the X Pro 1, so if you were planning on buying soon, the choice becomes quite easy.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie_cheung Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 sp is rarely about gears. That said, the oly has af edge and fuji has iq edge most likely. Both have the best jpeg in the business! Street shooting is more about you, the subject and light more than which camera... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_tuthill Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 You could put a Zuiko 14-54/2.8-3.5 (28-108) on the E-M5, with adapter. Most owners think it's a great lens. Fuji has promised an 18-72/4 (27-108) and fast zooms are rumored for Olympus and Panasonic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno_gaurish Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 yeah... i think i'll have to start using prime lenses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno_gaurish Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 Talking about lenses for these babies, are they of equal quality? (olympus/zuiko vs fuji) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_tran14 Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 <h1 > </h1> <p>best gear for strret photographer? OM-D or X-Pro1?<br> My Opinion is:<br> The word choice is not appropriate, if you compare two choices, you'd better say:<br> Which gear is better for a street photographer? A or B?<br> With the question in the title, the answer should be: No, neither</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno_gaurish Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 thank you for sharing your knowledge Mr Tran, it really enlighten me! BTW, who used the word choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_tran14 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 <blockquote> <p>who used the word choice?</p> </blockquote> <p>your word choice=your choice of words, using <strong>best</strong> instead of <strong>better</strong>. Since you only want to compare two cameras, ask which one is better. Asking for the best gear, that's a different story</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty_mickan Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 <p>iso is not the biggest concern IMHO, but dynamic range is one of the biggest areas where digital lags behind film. So between the two, the Fuji leaves the Oly for dead. DR is the main reason I'm selling off my m4/3rds gear. Currently, there is no such thing as a fast zoom, you're stuck with 2.8 at best. Have you considered the Sony NEX7?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno_gaurish Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 Yes Ty, DR is important. So the Fuji has a better DR than the Olympus? What about the Sony NEX7 compare to the Fuji? As i mentioned earlier, i shoot a lot with low light so for me IQ in high iso is important... So many of these little cameras out there... I dont care about the brand but the IQ. A zoom with constant aperture f:2.8 is what i have on my canon 5d mk2 and i am happy with it. So if i can get that on a 4/3rd, i'll be happy! Thanks for your comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 <center> <P> . <P> <img src= "http://citysnaps.net/2011%20photos/ExcelsiorCouple.jpg"><br> <i> iPhone 4 • Excelsior District, San Francisco • ©2012 Brad Evans</i> <P> . </center> <P> >>> What i need is: (of course) best IQ and auto focus possible (i know, it is not a 5dmk2)<P> No, not of course. IMO, neither *best* IQ or *best* AF are necessary for street photography. I have a 5DII and its AF is fine. For the last seven months I've been using an iPhone 4 and most recently a Canon Elph 100, and their IQ is fine.<P> I'd use what you have. Perhaps buy a used 35mm f/2.0 to lighten your load and tune-up your eye and street skills.<P> Street photography is NOT about having the best gear. It's about being out there, soaking in the rhythm/energy/dynamics of the street, anticipating what's about to happen, bs-ing with strangers, and being receptive to what comes before you with an open mind and keen eye.<P> It's absolutely not about "bests" in gear. www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 <blockquote> <p>IMO, neither *best* IQ or *best* AF are necessary for street photography.</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="http://iconicphotos.wordpress.com/tag/henri-cartier-bresson/">Here are some photos</a> by the most well-known street photographer of all time. His photos are in museums and galleries, famous collections, and more books than anyone can count. I'm not a big fan of his work, but I point it out because it's obvious that "IQ" and " best AF" are irrelevant to making great street photos, whether or not I like them. Learning to be on the street and having a photographic eye are what make great street photos.</p> <p>Here is my favorite recent street photograph that I have taken. I took it last week with a Canon ELPH100XS (I think that's what it is) that I bought new for $120. Anything wrong with this as a street photo?</p> <center><img src="http://spirer.com/images/artstudents.jpg" alt="" width="700" height="525" /></center> Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ned1 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 <p>Jeff, Bresson did plenty of dodging and burning in his prints, so "dynamic range" would have been crucial for him were he working with digital. Not sure with of the two cameras has the widest latitude, but I get about two stops worth with my X100</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 <p>In idle moments I find myself fretting about stuff like "IQ", noise and megapickles.</p> <p>And then I remember that when actually taking photos the only thing that ever irks me consistently is the thing that makes me yell at my camera "Dammit, when I mash the button, that means take the damned photo! Now, not two seconds from now!"</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 <blockquote> <p>Bresson did plenty of dodging and burning in his prints</p> </blockquote> <p><br /><br> Bresson did very little printing.<br> <br /></p> <blockquote> <p>so "dynamic range" would have been crucial for him were he working with digital.</p> </blockquote> <p><br />That's a projection. Nobody knows. I have no problem with a $120 digital camera for street photography.</p> Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gup Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 <p>I recently spent some time walking the streets of London and took about 200 shots. With me on the trip was a D700 with two pro zooms and a Canon Elph 300HS ($180). I am not a street photographer by habit but the little Canon was so EASY and fast to pocket and retrieve that I ended up shooting 100% of my walk-around shots with it. The D700 saw use at Stonehenge and some ancient landmarks outside of the city, but the Canon went everywhere with me. The results are excellent, though I am a RAW fan and would like to be able to tweak them in PS without loss. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintelmo21 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 <blockquote>Anything wrong with this as a street photo?</blockquote> <p>No, Jeff, definitely not.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno_gaurish Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Guys, can you please stick to the point? I am not asking for your personal views about street photography, all i want to know is the differences between the so many models of compact 4/3rd or mirrorless cameras! (so i can pick the one that fits MY needs!) Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 <p>Bruno, I can see from your excellent portfolio that you have plenty of experience at this. And a smaller, lighter camera would suit bicycle touring too.</p> <p>Josh Root (photo.net admin) recently <a href="../equipment/olympus/om-d/e-m5/first-impressions-review/">reviewed the OM-D</a> and might be able to answer your concerns about AF and shutter speed and responsiveness.</p> <p>I'm interested in a camera somewhat similar to what you described, Micro 4/3 or similar sized sensor, for the same reason - trying to lighten my load without sacrificing AF speed and shutter response. Although in my case I'd be willing to accept a non-interchangeable prime instead of a fast zoom, if the camera is otherwise capable.</p> <p>If there's a reasonably small Micro 4/3 or APS sensor mirrorless camera out there with the nimble AF and shutter response of the Ricoh GRD IV, I'd sure like to try it.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ty_mickan Posted May 6, 2012 Share Posted May 6, 2012 X100 is a superb camera for someone with experience with zone focusing and who's willing to work in manual mode (setting your own aperture and shutter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou_Meluso Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 <p>Bruno, Lex, test the Sony NEX 5n. Small, light, jacket pocketable with the kit zoom. Using a Sony 16mm f/2.8 or Sigma 20mm f/2.8 it is even more compact. Amazing image quality for the $$$. It has a very responsive shutter trigger (shutter lag 20ms). Good contrast detection AF speed, dynamic range and low light capability. Articulated screen for shooting from the hip or overhead. An added plus for me was its friendliness in using (and easy focusing) of vintage MF lenses. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou_Meluso Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 <blockquote> <p>or Sigma 20mm f/2.8</p> </blockquote> <p>That's a Sigma 19mm f/2.8</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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