How to take multiple exposures with analogue camera (Zorki 4)?

[pauline_tuesday]

 

<p>Hi there, I'm searching for some advises or manuals, how to take multiple exposures with my analogue camera Zorki 4, can somebody help me?</p>

 

[walter_degroot]

<p>first i Truely HATE the words "analog camera"<br>

it is a film camera darn it.<br>

now to answer your question.<br>

after you loaf a roll of some kind of analog in your device.</p>

<p>back up the rewind knob gently unit the film tension has been taken up<br>

Hold it into position and 1- press the rewind release and wind the film to cock the shutter.<br>

this will allow you to dpouble expose that frame.<br>

remeber if it an outdoor scene the frame will be overexposed.<br>

and they registration will eb off a bit.<br>

example if you are taking a flash photo in a dim rooom and you want to photograph someone shaking hand with themselves\it will not work correctly<br>

also if there are Objects that will be recorded on both frames stationary objects<br>

will be a little off<br>

whis technique works well for fireworks if everything else is quite dark.<br>

and then you can deliveratly underexpose so the background will be even less visible<br>

in this case yu are taking a photo of ligt, so underexposure will<br>

make the colors more saturated.<br>

In olden days with something like an Argus c-3, it was easy as the camera had no double exposure prevention.</p>

 

[walter_degroot]

<p>I am not familiar with your camera<br>

since you posted in medoum formay it drepends if the roll film camera ( if it is oen)<br>

has double exposure prevention<br>

JDM would likely know</p>

[walter_degroot]

<p>I am not familiar with your modrl camera<br>

I answered fpor a 35mm vamera<br>

since you posted in medoum format it drepends if the roll film camera ( if it is one)<br>

has double exposure prevention<br>

JDM would likely know</p>

[Matthew Currie]

<p>I found this:</p>

<p>http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47115</p>

<p>It sounds as if you need to be pretty careful not to break anything, so proceed with caution.</p>

[sarah_fox]

<p>IMO, the very best way to shoot a double exposure with any camera is to shoot two separate frames and then to overlay when you're enlarging (using a red filter and alignment marks for positioning) or postprocessing (if you scan). That's how I would do it back in the film days, and that's how I still do it.</p>

[JDMvW]

<p>I'm a FED man, myself, insofar as I have seriously used old Leicas or Leica copies.<br>

The main concern in the design of the old classic cameras was how to AVOID double exposure. If you are scanning in the result, something like what Sarah suggests is probably the easiest way to achieve the result. You can also sandwich two negatives in the enlarger.</p>

<p>For all that, the Zorki is still basically an old Leica, so maybe somebody can suggest something like the old Nikon trick of using the rewind release to make it possible to 'advance' and cock the shutter, without much moving the film.</p>

[robert_marvin]

If the Zorki works like a screw-mount Leica you can hold down the shutter release and wind the shutter-speed dial to re-cock the shutter without winding the film.

[rdm]

<blockquote>

<p><a href="../photodb/user?user_id=589033">Walter Degroot</a> <a href="../member-status-icons"><img title="Frequent poster" src="../v3graphics/member-status-icons/1roll.gif" alt="" /></a>, Jan 05, 2012; 11:21 a.m.<br>

..since you posted in medium format ....</p>

</blockquote>

<p>Hmmm I'm guessing by that remark this question was posted in the wrong forum then, and by looking where it is now maybe some mod must have moved it yet again to another wrong forum..lol .. Because its in this category :<br>

Community > Forums > Classic Manual Cameras > Brownie > How to take multiple exposures...<br>

Haha.. Brownie, Too funny :P<br>

Oh well , its centrally not the first ever post to be in the wrong category, nor the one hundred and first, but maybe just the first of the year.. lol .<br>

Anyway , I think in the <a href="../classic-cameras-forum/">Classic manual cameras</a> forum, sans the Brownie sub category would just fine, or even better yet the <a href="../leica-rangefinders-forum/">Leica & Rangefinders</a> forum . Doesn't matter tho because anyone looking in the Classic cameras forum will see this and i think there are many range finder owners that peruse the classic cameras forum.</p>

<p><strong>Anyway</strong>, <a href="../photodb/user?user_id=6943268">Pauline Tuesday</a> , I don't own this camera, but i think this <a href="http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/marine/569/rusrngfdrs/zorki4.html">web page </a>may help you. Its an English version of the ZORKI 4 owners manual. Also in-case you may need it , <a href="http://www.dvdtechcameras.com/info/2.htm">here is a web page on repair and adjustments</a>.</p>

<p>Good Luck,<br>

Dan</p>

[User_4525289]

<p>You can not make a double exposure using Zorki-4, or any other Zorki as a matter of fact. They specifically design to prevent double exposure. Only advance amateur and professional camera are capable of that. Or the primitive ones like Smena-8m with an uncoupled shutter.</p>

[subbarayan_prasanna]

<p>I agree with <strong>Kozma</strong>; please do not try meddling with the rewind button. It is a delicate fitting in the Zorkis. Often they do not work well even for rewinding at the end of a roll. So we resort to the dark room to remove the film. sp.</p>

[Matthew Currie]

<p>Since reference was made to an old Nikon trick, I should mention that a Nikon F will not recock the shutter when in rewind mode. The prescribed way to get a double exposure on an F is to take the first picture, then rewind the film so that the shutter button makes one complete rotation. It's marked for that purpose. Then set it back to wind, recock (and wind), and shoot again. Registration with this method is iffy, but as far as I know there's no way to double expose on an F without moving the film back and forth.</p>

<p>As far as I know, this is also how it's done on an old Leica. At least it's how my IIIb works, except that in this case, the mark is on the collar around the button.</p>

[bonsignore_ezio]

<p>Matthew is correct as regards the Nikon F. Taking a double exposure necessarily involves rewinding and readvancing the film. The method of cocking the shutter while pressing the rewind button was introduced (as far as Nikon professional cameras are concerned) with the F2.</p>

[gnashings]

<p>I'm with Walter. Secondly, you can NOT take them with an image capturing computer (ingrained in the public psyche as a "digital camera"), so if multiple exposures are your thing, film is the only medium. </p>

<p>Thirdly, you can take double exposures with ANY 35mm camera, simply by engaging the rewind lever or button and then moving the film advance lever, cocking the shutter but not advancing the film which is disengaged - but the registration of frames may not be..uhm... perfect:) But it can be done.</p>