RAW and JPEG question

[bob___10]

<p>Hi,<br>

I like the look of my jpegs. However, I need a tiff file to be able to print on metal. Is there a way to replicate the look of my jpeg in the raw file? It is my understanding the camera adjusts the jpeg to its pre-determined settings to make it look good. Is there a way to get those settings to the raw file?<br>

Thanks,<br>

Bob</p>

 

[lachaine]

<p>You should be able to do that easily with the camera's supplied raw image viewer/converter. I've only used the ones from Nikon and Canon, so I'm assuming the other makes have similar software. It should open right up in the same picture controls as you have set for your in-camera JPEGs. Convert to TIFF. </p>

<p>It's only when you use 3rd party software that you don't get this.</p>

[peterbcarter]

<p>It's not that complicated. Just take your jpeg and load it into your favorite image editor. Now save it as a tiff. Your look is preserved and you have a tiff.</p>

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[bob___10]

<p>Peter.....from the little I know I though it best going from RAW to TIFF, as opposed to JPEG to TIFF. From a quality perspective I thought this was best.</p>

[bruce_rubenstein]

<p>If the JPG looks right, converting from RAW is not going to make it look righter. RAW makes it possible to make a greater range of adjustments when doing conversions, but if you're not making additional adjustments there is no penalty in converting from JPG to TIFF.</p>

[peterbcarter]

<p>What Bruce said.</p>

<p>Your question was how to make the tiff like you already have in your jpg, to be able to print to metal. Why you would shoot raw is entirely another thing.</p>

[mendel_leisk]

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<p>However, I need a tiff file to be able to print on metal</p>

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<p>I'd second Peter: there should be no problem just converting the jpg to tiff. The two will look identical.</p>

<p>Are you <em>sure</em> you need tiff to print on metal? Is it some particular software you're using? Seems odd.</p>

[bob___10]

<p>Mendel, I was told by the company doing it they would prefer a tiff.</p>

[danield]

<p>Without knowing your exact camera model:</p>

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<p>Is there a way to replicate the look of my jpeg in the raw file?</p>

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<p>Not in the RAW file itself but usually the software that comes with the camera (for instance Canon DPP) should be able to convert a RAW file into a TIFF that would look the same as the Jpeg created by the camera</p>

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<p>It is my understanding the camera adjusts the jpeg to its pre-determined settings to make it look good.</p>

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<p>The camera is using a predetermined set of settings to convert the RAW data into a JPEG straightaway. There is no magic there.</p>

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<p>Is there a way to get those settings to the raw file?</p>

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<p>They usually already are in the RAW file. You would need the dedicated camera software should be able to convert the RAW file to JPEG or TIFF based on those recorded settings.</p>

<p>In reality different RAW processing engines (Photoshop, DxO, etc) may use their own settings and end up with different results. Without knowing what camera and what software you are using it's difficult to provide a specific answer.</p>

 

[scottelly]

<p>I have a friend who shoots film. He gets crappy 6 megapixel JPEG images from the place where he gets the film developed. To edit them, he changes them from 8 bit color to 16 bit color, before he edits. It works great for him. He could easily just save the edited image as a TIFF at that point, rather than changing back to 8 bit color, once he is done editing (which he does in order to save as JPEG). Of course, leaving the file in 8 bit and just saving as an 8 bit TIFF (actually 24 bit, because it is 8 bits per channel, 3 channels) would work fine, if you're not editing.<br>

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What color space are you using. I suggest that you use sRGB, because your printer will probably handle that color space best. If your JPEG images are Adobe1998 RGB, you can easily convert them in Photoshop by clicking Edit, and then click Convert to Profile. You should use Perceptual as the Intent setting.<br>

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Here is a video: http://youtu.be/v9sCkVoj01U<br>

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Presumably you don't know a lot about color management. Watch these:<br>

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http://youtu.be/n1ONediDsSc<br>

http://youtu.be/OLD7X8g2IXM<br>

http://youtu.be/Zn4kgPjWTMk<br>

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Here is a video about color settings in Photoshop:<br>

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http://youtu.be/NHuIfoN5cV4</p>

[richardsperry]

<p>Bob,</p>

<p>Most have said what I already said in your other thread on the topic.<br>

Just do a test print. You don't want to edit the file, which is fine. Just send a tiff from raw, and a tiff from jpg and have your company print two for you. Just get a couple 8x10s or something not too expensive, and see which one looks like you want it to.</p>

<p>Just do it. What have you got to lose?</p>

[twmeyer]

<p>"If the JPG looks right, converting from RAW is not going to make it look righter."<br /><br />That's's like saying that if driving the AutoBahn at 90kph in a 1982 Jeep feels right, then driving it in a 2011 BMW won't feel any righter. The Jeep only feels right if you've never driven a 2011 BMW... t</p>