zvia_shever Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 <p>Okay, a while back I posted a question about getting the 5D, Mark II or the 7D and started WWIII in doing so. It looks like the war is still on, based on a post a few days ago. This post is an update now that I have the 5D, II and the fact that I'm now second guessing myself.</p> <p>So that I'm not causing an acceleration in war, I want to preface this post with the fact that I tested out both cameras before purchasing and loved the 7D's focusing and metering systems, but preferred the 5D's low noise (not just at high ISOs) and overall "look", whatever that means...can't fully explain it. So I'm not for or against either as they're both great cameras.</p> <p>The 5D, Mark II came in today with the 24-105, and although I haven't done any real testing, I did notice that the shutter, or mirror slap or whatever, is incredibly loud. I didn't notice this when I rented the camera for a recent photo trip, so not sure if this is a problem or not. I know I can use silent modes in live view, but I don't like live view, so that's not an advantage for me. I can, and will, call my local camera rental place to see if they'll allow me to compare one of their 5Ds with mine.....I'm sure they will as they want to purchase my 17-55.</p> <p>Anyhow, now I'm second guessing myself with my choice. I know ultimately the quality of the photo is what matters, and I know the noise in the 7D won't appear in print (although even seeing it on screen bothered me as I kept trying to "fix" it and then used to much noise reduction, rendering images soft....my fault, not the camera's).</p> <p>Aside from the shutter clunk, the only other issue with the 5D is the 3.9fps. I don't mind losing reach on the long end, as I can always borrow my friend's 100-400 whenever I want (or rent if we're on a workshop together).</p> <p>So choice A. is keeping the 5D, II and 24-105 (as long as the shutter noise turns out to be normal) and pairing it with my 40D and 70-200 when I'm shooting wildlife and my kids' sports. Then selling both the 5D and the 40D when the new 5D comes out (G-d knows when) providing the fps increases by one or two fps.</p> <p>Choice B. Returning the 5D and 24-105, keeping my 17-55, selling my 40D, buying a 7D and 10-22. Once again, when the 5D, Mark III comes out, I could then sell the 7D, 10-22 and 17-55 and purchase perhaps a 17-40 and 24-105...or similar combo.</p> <p>If in fact there is a problem with the 5D, II shutter clunk, then I will need to return it to B&H and of course they're out of stock, so I wouldn't be able to get a replacement. If this happens, do I buy the 7D or just keep renting the 5D, II for my travels and buy the 5D, III when it arrives?</p> <p>I love to/live to travel and that's primarily when I shoot....landscapes and some wildlife. Rarely birds, no pro sports or anything like that. I also like to shoot my son's volleyball (horrible lighting in the gym) where the 5D would be better with noise as I need to shoot at high ISOs but it only gets 3.9fps, so fewer keepers. Aside from a Yellowstone/Tetons trip I'm taking next week where I was planning on using the 40D for wildlife (with borrowed 100-400) and the 5D for walk around and landscapes, I will usually carry only one body.</p> <p>Opinions? </p> <p>Sorry in advance for causing problems ;)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savas_kyprianides Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 You're overthinking things. Go take some pictures and enjoy your new gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zvia_shever Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 <p>Of course I'm over thinking! It's part of my anal retentive, controlling nature ;).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 >>> I did notice that the shutter, or mirror slap or whatever, is incredibly loud. Not a problem. That's the way it is. Do you get decent pix out of it? That's the real test... >>> Anyhow, now I'm second guessing myself with my choice. >>> Opinions? Stop worrying! It's a great camera, you made a great decision. As I did almost two years ago when I bought mine. Image quality is superb. Love using mine every time I go out and shoot with it... www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jims pictures Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 <p>I've had mine for about two years now. (My first digital since my OM-2 back in the 70's.) I LOVE the beautiful big sensor, which brings in <strong>beautiful </strong>color pictures. Yes, it's a loud shutter. I'm so glad I bought it. <br> Jim C.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_king2 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 <p>If you are worried by the shutter noise then get it checked for peace of mind. I have the 5DII 24-105L combination and its great for its IQ - its the camera I take when on vacation. I also have the 7D (and 40D) and use them for action/sports (including active children playing). You can use the 5DII for action, its just that the 7D is better. I use the 5DII for weddings as my primary camera with the 7D as a second body. Low light candids is a test for any camera. Both 5DII and 7D will do the job - it just depends on your priorities as to which one you get. Different tools for different purposes. Everything in photography has its compromises. Actually the camera I use for casual photography on an almost daily basis is an Olympus E-PL2 Micro Four Thirds kit - because it is small, light and unobtrusive but at the expense of a little more noise and handling speed.</p> <p>My opinion? Based on your stated usage? Get the 5DII checked and if there is no problem with the shutter then keep it and enjoy it. Make sure you have good lenses.</p> <p>Cheers, Bob</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielleetaylor Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 <p>I think you're over thinking things at this point. Enjoy your new camera. Think about the images you want to make, not the equipment you think you maybe possibly should have purchased or not.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zvia_shever Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 <p>Okay, you're all talking some sense into me. Maybe my worries are just buyer's remorse or whatever. After all, there was a reason I chose the 5D, II over the 7D in the first place! I will get the clunk checked out and do a few minor tests tomorrow...no overkill, I promise. If it's acceptably sharp, that's all I need.</p> <p>I'll keep my 40D for shooting my kids' sports and wildlife. It's actually been a great camera, just a little noisy at high ISOs.</p> <p>Bob....I have a 70-200 f/4 IS which I love and now the 24-105L, which I hope to love. I plan on buying a wide angle at some point, perhaps the 17-40. I have a friend who very generously lets me borrow his 100-400L IS, whenever I want. </p> <p>Thanks again for keeping me sane.</p> <p>Zvia</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_ferris Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 If you think the 5D MkII is loud have a play with an EOS 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_wu6 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 <p>If your return the 5D and get a 7D, it's possible you will 3rd guess yourself. Enjoy what you got.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zvia_shever Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 <p>Ha, you're right David. Growing up, my parents called me the "what if" queen.....I'm sure they're so proud that I'm living up to my nickname.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_j2 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 <p>Based on this YouTube video, the 5D II's shutter in burst mode is quieter than the 7D's shutter.</p> <p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8c7I5c_pY0</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 My 7D shutter/mirror zap Is a lot softer than my 5D2. But, duh, the 5D is FF and there should be more noise due to the much larger mirror and shutter curtains. Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <blockquote> <p>The 5D, Mark II . . . I did notice that the shutter, or mirror slap or whatever, is incredibly loud. . . .<br> Opinions?</p> </blockquote> <p>Return it.<br> Buy an M9.</p> <p>WW</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g dan mitchell Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>Have a drink. Relax. Go make some photographs.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markonestudios Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>I think you have been suitably convinced that you should stop fretting and start shooting! I just want to pick up on one point:</p> <blockquote> <p>but it only gets 3.9fps, so fewer keepers.</p> </blockquote> <p>Getting decent sports shots is only partly about the fps capability of your camera but in far greater part is about anticipation (+ understanding whatever sport it is you're shooting), timing and raw reflex. What did people do before 10fps cameras came on the scene?</p> <p>About a noisy shutter, compared to the good ol' days of film where after the shutter the motor would kick in to advance the film, it is as quiet as a church mouse :)</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_leinster Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>There are times when my wife gets a bit noisy, but she gives perfect results so I wouldn't trade her for anything else! Go enjoy and stop worrying.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>"my wife gets a bit noisy . . . "<br> . . . ROFL </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <blockquote> <p><strong>"What did people do before 10fps cameras came on the scene?"</strong></p> </blockquote> <p>They made photos with a thorough knowledge of the play; excellent anticipation and near perfect shutter release skills . . . and they always knew the count on their "frames remaining", also.</p> <p>What I mean is - I agree with Mark. <br> The 5DMkII can produce great Sports Photos.<br> Use "One Shot" - it’s loads of fun.</p> <p>It is just like driving a "Proper Car", you know those cars with three pedals and that stick thingy . . . Heel and Toe the Accelerator and Brake, to make the Double Shuffle Clutch on the Down Shift: fast into the corner, brake late, flick the tail out. </p> <p>Go watch the “Deer Hunter” . . . One shot.<br> Amazing how much there is to learn and how much fun it is leaning it all, when there is “One Shot” thinking, in place.</p> <p>WW </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newland Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <blockquote> <p>(My 7D shutter/mirror zap Is a lot softer than my 5D2. But, duh, the 5D is FF and there should be more noise due to the much larger mirror and shutter curtains). <strong></strong><em><strong>That is the answer you are looking for from Puppy Face.... My 50d feels a bit like a toy next to my 5dll but still takes great photos.</strong></em></p> </blockquote> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_pierlot Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p><em>Don't worry, be happy.</em><br> <em> </em><br> You've got one of the finest DSLR's ever made.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcstep Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>I own the 5D MkII and the 7D. The 5D2 is the ultimate travel camera, IMO. Stop worrying and take some beautiful pictures for us.</p> <p>If you were really serious about birds and wildlife, then a 7D might make sense, but for your occasional shooting of such things, the 40D is excellent.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_harvey3 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>The shutter sound of a 5DII will sound like a mouse peeing on cotton if you compare it to something like the original Pentax 6X7.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_engineer Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>....Like Mark Says.... just chillax and enjoy the awesome power of the 5dmk2</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zvia_shever Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 <p>Ok, so I was so relieved to read all your posts...but.....then I took some test shots this morning. Color is good, and shutter/mirror clunk isn't as annoying as I thought. However, my 40D with 17-55 is so much sharper than the 5D with 24-105. If I can figure out how to add a couple samples, I will. Both these shots were taken on a tripod with the IS off at 5.6, 100 ISO. They are 100% crops.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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