asimrazakhan Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 <p>I'm asking this for a friend. He has a Leica MP with a 75mm lens (he also has a 35mm and 24mm). What backup body would work well with this combination if he needs a body that has aperture priority? He really likes the Zeiss Ikon but isn't sure if the lack of 75mm brightlines would make it impossible to work with.</p> <p>The only ones I can think of are:</p> <p>Leica M7.... great but very expensive as a backup body.<br> Zeiss Ikon... great but does not have 75mm brightlines.... can it still work?<br> Minolta CLE... nice size and with a lot of automation, but I think the brightlines may be an issue<br> Voigtlander? ... don't know much about these bodies.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_hooper1 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 <p>You can use an external 75mm finder which will fit the accessory shoe of any camera that has one. Voigtlander and Ziess made 75mm finders. eBay has two Zeiss and two Voigtlander 75mm finders listed now.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aoresteen Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 <p>For Voigtlander info see Cameraquest:</p> <p><a href="http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtr2ar3a.htm">http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtr2ar3a.htm</a></p> <p>Consider the R2A or the R3A.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_a._shapiro Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 <p>I'd get an M6.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_drew4 Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 <p>I have the MP, 75mm Heliar and use a R3a as a second body. Works great and I love the 1:1 finder!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 <p>How about an M6? It has the same controls as the MP and also has 75mm frames.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 M7 or R2A appear to be the only cameras that meet his criteria. M6's don't have aperture priority. The Bessa is a great little handling camera, easy to hold with one hand, nice ergonomics. It's just not nearly as durable as an M7. I would stay away from the CLE.. too long in the tooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher_m Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 <p>Yeah, I would second the R3a recommendation. 75mm framelines and aperture priority. 1:1 finder makes focuses at wide apertures easier.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 <p>The 75mm won't bring up the Zeiss Ikon 85mm frameline anyhow. It will bring up the 50. So if going with the ZM, I think the 75mm aux. finder is the way to go. I have one, and don't consider it a hardship to have to use. In fact, I use it in preference to the built-in 75 framelines on M6, M7, and MP.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumpton Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 <p>I just sold mine. but the Bessa T equipped with the 75mm VF is a nice second body, especially as it has (with its 1.5X magnification), one of the most accurate rangefinders around. Otherwise I too would go for the R3a and its aperture priority if shutter sound is not important (the Bessa T is not that quiet either). The Hexar RF camera is a beaut and reasonable in price, but a little questionable for future repairs I would guess.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_drew4 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 <p>Tag2: I have the Bessa T w/75mm auxilliary finder for the 75mm lens as well. It is slower to use due to workflow for me. Sharp focus & metering & cheap, but slower workflow with a tele. With a WA lens, it rocks! Thus, the R3a body was added. The R3a is NOT built as the M7 in terms of durability, but I am assuming we are talking about a 2nd body - not a dedicated body. The R3a may only last a couple decades vs the M7/MP lasting several more . . . :-)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerber_van_der_graaf Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 <p>Why does such an excellent camera needs a backup?</p> <p>Anyway, I'd choose for an other MP, probably with a different view finder magnification: then all buttons will work identic and the camera will have the samfeeling. This in contrast to a M6, of which the shutter dial goes the other way around. Using both cameras at once might be confusing during its usage. Actually, I prefer to a have the M6 just because of its shutter dial: its larger and more logical in combination with the meter indication in the viewer.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Blackwell Images Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 <p>With respects, Gerber is (partially) incorrect. The M6 classic has identical controls to that of an MP; the M6TTL shutter dial turns the opposite way.</p> <p>That being said, I would opt for an M6 classic, which can be had, like new, for less than a Zeiss Ikon (by far an inferior camera IMHO), whose only 'user' differentiation from the MP will be the RW knob.</p> “When you come to a fork in the road, take it ...” – Yogi Berra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_hooper1 Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 <p>I agree with Gerber that another Leica MP body would be the most logical choice.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_keller Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 <p> If someone is likely to pony up the $ for another MP, then they should buy an M7 instead. After all, the buying criteria was AP automation. And if auto exposure is a desired characteristic, then the MP may eventually become the back-up body. Either way, there will be no compromises regarding quality or durability.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Blackwell Images Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 <p ><a href="../photodb/user?user_id=5915478">Paul Keller</a> <a href="../member-status-icons"></a>, Apr 12, 2011; 01:51 a.m.</p> <blockquote> <p>If someone is likely to pony up the $ for another MP, then they should buy an M7 instead. After all, the buying criteria was AP automation. And if auto exposure is a desired characteristic, then the MP may eventually become the back-up body. ...</p> </blockquote> <p>That's precisely what I did. I had an MP and bought an M7 as a back-up. After using the M7 the MP soon became the back-up. This remained the case until I took the leap into digital with the purchase of an M8; I haven't used film since.</p> “When you come to a fork in the road, take it ...” – Yogi Berra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_n1664876959 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 <p>Why does he need aperture priority, is he shooting slides? If not I'd say don't bother, I had two M7s and replaced them with two MPs and my exposures are more accurate with the MPs. I also use 75, 35 and 24mm lenses and I have a 0.85x mag MP for the 75 and a 0.72x mag MP for the 35 and 24. So I'm with Gerber, get two identical MP bodies with magnifications suitable for the lens range and you'll have ease of use and backup covered.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrypittman Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 <p>I agree. No better backup for an MP than another MP! If you have Black, get Silver/Chrome - easy to remember which camera has B&W film and which one has your color or slide film.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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