Creating slides from developed negatives

[eric_s7]

<p>I have always liked transparencies, but I also shoot negative film. I am thinking of having some of the images exposed on negatives copied onto transparencies by using a slide-duplicator. Could anyone tell me what are the films currently available that can be used for the purpose? It would be good if I could do that on a film that is developed with the C41 process, as there are more labs doing C41 than those doing E6. I believe there used to be a film called Kodak Vericolor which was just such a film, but I just couldn't find it anywhere now. Are there any other film like that? Suppose such films had been extinct now, would it be possible to expose the negative images onto slide film and then have it cross-processed in C41 to produce positive images? I would like to have real, usable images from the process, not the crappy type normally associated with Lomography. Many thanks in advance for your expert advice.</p>

[randrew1]

<p>Vericolor slide film is gone. There are two ways that I can think of to get slides from negatives. If you google "slides from negatives" you will find at least one lab that scans the negatives and then outputs the image on slide film. It is theoretically possible to print negatives onto motion picture print film, but I don't know of a lab that does this. Process ECP 2 is not designed for home use. The color developer is far more allergenic and the bleach is more corrossive than C-41 counterparts. </p>

[eric_s7]

<p>Thanks for the response Ron. I guess sending my negatives to the specialist labs hundreds or thousand of kilometers from me is out of the question. What about exposing the images onto slide film and have the film cross-processed? How will the output turn out to be?</p>

[Karim Ghantous]

<p>Cross-processing will give you 'wrong' colours no matter what you're doing. You want Lomography? Go nuts with cross-processing.</p>

<p>What might work is to dupe the negative onto the same emulsion. That will, at best, give you an okay but low contrast positive.</p>

<p>Dale Labs in Florida still does that kind of thing, but you need to start off with the right film. However, make an enquiry there if you can send them your C-41 film for them to dupe onto ECN-2 interpositive film. That might just work. Have a look here (the first answer is quite helpful):</p>

<p>http://askville.amazon.com/Seattle-FilmWorks-film-developed/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=6985459</p>

<p>You might want to use ECN-2 film in future for some applications if you find it value for money.</p>

[david_henderson]

<p>Scan the negs and project using a digital projector. Not as good as the real thing but improving and you aren't starting from a great place. Personally I'd much rather use transparency film and get prints from scanned slides than do what you are faced with. </p>

[richard_eaton1]

<p>How about just re-photographing prints from the negs, using transparency film? <br>

Not perfect, I know, but less fiddly than other options ....I've done it many times in the past when I needed to include old photos and other illustrations in slide presentations. </p>

[eric_s7]

<p>Hi everyone, I really appreciate your input. <br /> It looks like I will not be making the slides after all. All your suggestions are viable, but they will be too much hassle for a novice like me. I had initially thought that it would be a simple process of just attaching a slide-duplicator to my SLR, and snap away the film that I mount onto it. It's really a pity that Vericolor Slide Film is no more. Dealing with motion picture film or ECN-2 interpositive film will be daunting to me, I think. What I wanted was to view the slides on an illuminated slide viewer or a telescopic type viewer, so scanning for digital projecting does not serve my purpose. Photographing prints from negs, I believe, is similar to the process of copying documents, which is not as easy as snapping film on a slide-duplicator. This does look to be the most viable option for me though, and perhaps I may seriously consider it someday. <br /> Thanks again, everyone, for your suggestions, they have been really helpful.</p>

[walter_degroot]

<p>I looked into this and asked Dale labs.<br>

as my wife went thru my old negatives, she found a strip of Viewmaster Format negatives, Likely it was Saeattle film works.<br>

the Viewmaster images are very small , almost 16mm fram size on 35mm film stock.<br>

I thought if the process was still available, I could shoot color neg and have it PRINTED as slides,.<br>

then a second copy could be made. not going to happen.<br>

there are some very pricey things like an enlarger they electronnicaly reverses the image<br>

and scanning a negative. SO any method today involves some kind of scanning or electronics..<br>

One obvios thing I did not see was suggested by Jeff Adler.<br>

Load a camera with c-41 film and use the slide copier to photograpg a slide, especially something ODDC like ly tiny viewmaster images. send out the print film and if you are careful, you have converted slides to prints,.<br>

not perfect but less hassle,.<br>

Going the other way, photographing a yellow/orange nagative<br>

they colored mask makes it virtually inpossible.<br>

Our scanner does negatives or slide properly<br>

but a negative in the slide holder is seen as a blish image and the colors seem to have been lost.<br>

Epson said it was the software. that spens a lot of time helping us.<br>

Progress is not alwaye a help. I asked a 3d stereo group and that had no suggestions.</p>

[AlanKlein]

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<p>What I wanted was to view the slides on an illuminated slide viewer or a telescopic type viewer, so scanning for digital projecting does not serve my purpose.</p>

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<p>Ron: What is an illuminated slide viewer or a telescopic type viewer? Rather then get hung up on the process, maybe you can change the viewing result you want. What is your ultimate objective in showing the pictures? It's not clear to me. Alan</p>

[eric_s7]

<p>Alan Klein:</p>

<blockquote>What is an illuminated slide viewer or a telescopic type viewer? Rather then get hung up on the process, maybe you can change the viewing result you want. What is your ultimate objective in showing the pictures? It's not clear to me. Alan

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<p>You may find some details about these viewers here:<br>

http://www.amazon.com/Pana-Vue-Automatic-Slide-viewer/dp/B00009UTWA<br>

<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Pana-vue-Slide-Viewer-Viewing-Transparencies/dp/B0002GRLL8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1293708641&sr=1-5">http://www.amazon.com/Pana-vue-Slide-Viewer-Viewing-Transparencies/dp/B0002GRLL8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1293708641&sr=1-5</a><br>

Viewing slides on such viewers gives me the pleasure that I do not get from other forms of output or viewing methods. That is the main reason of me shooting slides or trying to create them from negatives.</p>

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[mwmcbroom]

<p>If you're still interested in this, there might still be some Vericolor lurking around in folks' freezers. I bought a bulk roll of it off eBay last year, and it's sitting in my freezer, waiting for me to get off my duff and make some use of it. So you might want to keep an eye out for it. Never can tell when some may pop up on the used market. Not that it would be "used" mind you.</p>

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