Wide angle, very close up glass

[tommyinca]

<p>One easy and inexpensive to do this wide angle view, close up is to use the kit zoom. Yes the 18-55 kit lens. Add to that, an inexpensive but should be high quality +4 or more diopter filter. On a DX system, at 18mm setting, this should yield a field of view of about 24mm and 70mm or less of working distant. The thickness of the diopter matter a lot. The trick for best result is to optimize the power, thickness and the number of elements.</p>

[CvhKaar]

<p>Still not clear for me wether "Makro"is the goal, or extreme perspective close-up , that's why I posted the question > How Small is " small/intricate machinery" < ?</p>

[monty_montgomery]

<p>Hello, catching up after a few days away...<br /><br />> "Monty, How small is "Small" ??"<br /><br />Depends. My use case is vague and variable. I make many things,<br />though 'between one and ten breadboxes total size' is usually about<br />right. Many of the things I make are very small, some aren't, but<br />either way I have a perhaps tired fascination with photographs set<br />inside the machine, and I often partially disassemble what I'm<br />working on to momentarily sneak a camera in.<br /><br />Most of my photographs are dead dull and any ol' lens will do. I'm<br />thinking of that 1% of photographs I'd like to make (and often failed<br />at making in the past) that are challenging or weird. I used to use<br />my wife's old Olympus C5050 (great if annoying camera!) until the sensor died<br />for the third time, and I'm also trying to recapture some of what that<br />little bugger could do, but with somewhat higher quality equipment.<br /><br />>"i think we can see where this is going: if you want wide+close, you<br />> don't really have a lot of options."<br /><br />Yes, I was afraid of that.<br /><br />>"What about the 14mm f2.8? Maybe the 14-24/2.8 (I have not checked<br />> the specs)."<br /><br />This lens would work... beginning to get into somewhat more serious<br />[and fragile] equipment that I was hoping to avoid. The big bulb<br />lenses scare me as I am, frankly, a clumsy fool, and working around<br />sharp pokey bits of metal.<br /><br />>"Macro is one field where compacts with their smaller sensors are<br />> ahead of DSLRs."<br /><br />I'm coming to realize that. I hate the small sensors though. I've<br />spent far too much of my life writing denoising filters to ever want<br />to rely on one as indispensible again :-P<br /><br />> "Still not clear for me wether "Makro"is the goal, or extreme<br />> perspective close-up"<br /><br />Yes, sorry not to answer that question sooner. I'm definitely after<br />extreme perspective close-up and not macro. Macro is comparatively<br />straightforward.<br /><br />Thank you all for your comments. I'm happy you've taken so much<br />time for a confused amateur indulging in naive photographic cliches :-)</p>

[Albins images]

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[Albins images]

<p>With 24x36mm film, I was very happy using the 24/2.8 with extension rings. On DX-sensor, I've been helping myself with a 20/3.5 - see attached image. I suppose you can guess the scale of an average <em>Lego minifigure </em>and acorn<em>..</em><br>

<a href="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4110/4945932155_396554669e_m.jpg"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4110/4945932155_396554669e_m.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="159" /></a><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1354/1310604799_43df66b49c_m.jpg" alt="" width="240" height="161" /><br>

A friend of mine got good results with the Sigma 20/1.8.</p>

[tommyinca]

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<p> I'm definitely after extreme perspective close-up</p>

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<p>Nikon made an extreme perspective close up lens (aka: EC-1) for its 8mm R8 movie camera long ago. It is about a +14 diopter with a 52mm tread. On a D90, it will get u small sensor digicam like perspective (~30mm) when used with a 24/2.x, 28/2.x, 35/1.x, and 50/1.x nikkors. </p>

[CvhKaar]

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<p> I make many things, though 'between one and ten breadboxes total size' is<br>

And<br>

. I'm definitely after extreme perspective close-up and not macro</p>

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<p>Monty, this might make a Sigma 8-16 a nice candidate i think ... :-) ( and all other ultra wide zooms like a nikon 10-24 for that matter.. ).</p>

[tommyinca]

<p>Nikon EC-1</p><div></div>

[tom_mann1]

<p>Ditto to the comments about decent quality from digital P&S cameras, e.g. ...</p>

<p>Tom M</p><div></div>