shoo Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 Hello, I have some old rolls of Kodak's PanX 32 that I would like to try out. Since it has been discontinued, can anyone help me find the development times for it? I would be using D76 1:1 or HC110 Dilution B. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0002a Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 I don't want to throw cold water on your parade, but I used Panatomic-X for many years, and in my opinion, Ilford Pan F+ is far superior. There is always a lot of romanticism and folklore surrounding discontinued products. But since the film is seriously outdated, I would pass if I were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j._raabe Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 I hd a roll of that from 13 years ago.. Used it, it came out nice! I'd try stand development, just to avoid potential errors in processing time.. HC-110 1:30 or more, maybe 1:50, should do ok.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 Try about 1 to 2 minutes less than the published Tri-X times. It needs more time than Plus-X for some reason. That's about as close as you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted October 23, 2002 Share Posted October 23, 2002 I mmeant to add: ...in D76 1:1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 No need to guess. The published times from the old Darkroom Data Guide were 9 minutes in D76 1:1, and 4 1/2 minutes in HC-110 dilution B. Great stuff. Use a tripod or bright light and have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_andrews Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 That film has got to be at least 20 years old, since Kodak discontinued it about 1980. Is it worth risking even one halfway decent picture just to use it up?<br>PanF was always a better film anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_eaton Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Pan-F was NOT a better film than Panatomic-X for the same reason Delta 400 is NOT a better film than Tri-X pro. Entirely different animals. Unlike Pan-F, at least Panatomic-X had some balls. Spencer, I'd use the same processing time for Plus-X minus 25%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip_glass Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Panatomic X is supposedly still available. I am told that the negative emulsion in Polaroid Type 55 sheet film is identical to Panatomic X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0002a Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Scott, Pan F+ is not a T-Grain (or Delta grain) film, so I do not understand your analogy between Delta 400 and Tri-X. Pan F+ is much better than the old Pan F was. I would venture a guess that I have shot more Panatomic-X than anyone who regularly posts on this forum, and in comparison to my newer Pan F+ negatives, my Panatomic-X negatives are somewhat thin are lifeless (both in Rodinal, various dilutions). I really get tired of people who worship discontinued products that they pretty much ignored when available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 I recently found two rolls of Panatomic-X in my freezer, so I checked the data sheet. Times at 68 degrees are: D-76 (1:1)= 7 minutes, HC-110 (Dilution B) = 4min 15 sec. Agitation should be at 30 sec intervals. Why all the animosity, Guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoo Posted October 24, 2002 Author Share Posted October 24, 2002 Thanks for the responses everyone. The reason I am tryin this is because someone gave me a couple rolls. I usually shoot with PlusX,TMax100, or TMax400 or equivalents, so I wanted to see how this turned out. I will be using a fresh roll of Pan F+ soon......so I know that will be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_sampson Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 Just for the record, Panatomic-X was discontinued in 1987 when T-Max 100 was introduced. There is an aerial film, Panatomic-X Aerographic film 2412, available in 9-1/2" long rolls, but I don't know if it is the same emulsion (probably not.) Polaroid T-55 could be similar to Pan-X... someone should do some research. Hope your Pan-X looks good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_burns1 Posted October 24, 2002 Share Posted October 24, 2002 I used to use 35mm PanX for portrait work all the time. Developed in Microdol X undiluted it gave the smoothest grain I've ever seen from a 35mm neg. I don't recall the dev times I used to use, that was so long ago. I've always said that Pan X is the only reason Microdol X was ever invented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat_krentz Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 I use Panatomic Aerecon II film #3412 rated at 40 ASA and developed in pyro-triethonalomine? for 4.5 min. @ 68-F after a 5 min. water soak. It works good with other pyro developers. The thickness is 2.5/3 mil and printing times are noticably shorter and it has extended red sensitivity which helps with portraiture. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernard_wiessner Posted November 2, 2002 Share Posted November 2, 2002 The insert for developing times in my box of Rodinal is still listing Panotomic X.1 to 25,5min. 1 to 50,11min. at 68 degrees.I bought it about 4 months ago.How old is this stuff? Anyway,it worked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernard_wiessner Posted November 2, 2002 Share Posted November 2, 2002 The insert for developing times in my box of Rodinal is still listing Panotomic X.1 to 25,5min. 1 to 50,11min. at 68 degrees.I bought it about 4 months ago.How old is this stuff? Anyway,it worked great. Thanks to all and have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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