rossb Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Old and functions without batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBu Lamar Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 My definition for a manual camera. The aperture, Shutter speed and focusing function can not be done by the camera the user must set them. It can have the following features It can have a meter It can have a motor drive it can be totally electronic that is not function at all without battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_hutcherson Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I will also stick by defining it as a camera that does not require a battery to function. A battery for a light meter is okay. Just to hit some big ones, that gives us Leicas, most 1970s and earlier SLRs(including the big boys like the Canon F-1 and Nikon F/F2), Rolleiflexes, Hasselblads(500), Bronica Z/D/S cameras, and a huge laundry list of others. There are some cameras that have limited functionality without a battery, or can take on functions like automatic exposure with one installed. For me to consider something manual, I'd want to look at the extent of battery-less functionality. I will say that I don't think having one "emergency" mechanical shutter speed(Nikon F3, Bronica SQ) makes a camera mechanical. I can think of two Canons that meet the "limited functionality" criteria. With batteries installed, the EF is a shutter priority camera electronically timed speeds out to 30s. Take the batteries out and you have an all mechanical body that is fully functional from 1s to 1/1000. Similarly, the New F-1 is an aperture priority AE camera(without a motor drive) with a battery installed, and with electronically timed shutter speeds from 1/60 to 8s. With the battery physically removed from the camera(an important step) it is functional from 1/90 to 1/2000(and B). The contemporary Nikon F3 has one mechanical shutter speed that can be fired without batteries-1/80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBu Lamar Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I will also stick by defining it as a camera that does not require a battery to function. A battery for a light meter is okay. Just to hit some big ones, that gives us Leicas, most 1970s and earlier SLRs(including the big boys like the Canon F-1 and Nikon F/F2), Rolleiflexes, Hasselblads(500), Bronica Z/D/S cameras, and a huge laundry list of others. There are some cameras that have limited functionality without a battery, or can take on functions like automatic exposure with one installed. For me to consider something manual, I'd want to look at the extent of battery-less functionality. I will say that I don't think having one "emergency" mechanical shutter speed(Nikon F3, Bronica SQ) makes a camera mechanical. I can think of two Canons that meet the "limited functionality" criteria. With batteries installed, the EF is a shutter priority camera electronically timed speeds out to 30s. Take the batteries out and you have an all mechanical body that is fully functional from 1s to 1/1000. Similarly, the New F-1 is an aperture priority AE camera(without a motor drive) with a battery installed, and with electronically timed shutter speeds from 1/60 to 8s. With the battery physically removed from the camera(an important step) it is functional from 1/90 to 1/2000(and B). The contemporary Nikon F3 has one mechanical shutter speed that can be fired without batteries-1/80. So the Hasselblad 2000F/C with the waist level finder isn't a manual camera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_hutcherson Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 So the Hasselblad 2000F/C with the waist level finder isn't a manual camera? My mention of cameras wasn't intended to be all inclusive-it most certainly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossb Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 My comment is not meant to be all inclusive either. There are many old camera's with different configurations that I do not know about. What came to mind for me was the Leica M3. Classic because it's old, classic because it's loved and manually operated. However I participate in the Classic Camera weekly photo sharing and use a Medium Format with aperture priority. However the rules are film pictures from a film camera. Actually I asked before posting to make sure it was ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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