paul_heagen Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 <p>I was taking pictures today when all of a sudden, the camera changed modes. I pressed the shutter button and the shutter stayed open until I pressed it again -- essentially going to a mode as if I wanted to do a manual timing of the shutter. <br> I have not used the camera for many years, so I have forgotten the settings. I don't recall changing anything for this to happen. <br> I do not have the manual anymore. Does anyone know if/where the camera has a setting for this I can turn of -- or any other explanation?</p> <p>Thanks. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_stemberg Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 <p>You were not on the 'B' setting were you.....?</p> <p>By the way, it would help people to help you a lot if they knew what camera model they should be talking about.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_bryant1 Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 <p>Maybe mirror lock-up was on? That causes similar behavior (one press raises the mirror, next press triggers the shutter followed by dropping the mirror). Were the exposures normal or dramatically overexposed?</p> <p>And yes, camera model would help.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_heagen Posted April 3, 2010 Author Share Posted April 3, 2010 <p>Where is the control for mirror lock-up? That sounds like it might have been the issue.</p> <p>I found am EOS Elan II manual on-line but it does not reference mirror lock-up.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_heagen Posted April 3, 2010 Author Share Posted April 3, 2010 <p>Is there any way to get the shutter to operate without film in the camera? I little hard to troubleshoot this without being able to activate the shutter. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_heagen Posted April 3, 2010 Author Share Posted April 3, 2010 <p>Interesting....camera is now allowing me to operate shutter w/o flm being loaded and I am not getting the "B" or mirror lock-up syndrome (whichever it was...). <br> Still curious about what may have happened. Grateful if anyone can tell me where the mirror lock-up control is on my model. Unless the chip is getting old and losing its mind. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_heagen Posted April 3, 2010 Author Share Posted April 3, 2010 <p>Alan,<br> No way to know yet if they were dramatically overexposed since I am shooting film and I have not developed the roll. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_bryant1 Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 <p>Ok - I've never shot film on EOS so I have no idea how to use an Elan, but there are quite a few people here who have, so I expect someone will be along with an answer.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Katz Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 <p>The mirror lock-up is controlled via custom function #5 (0 = no mirror lock / 1= mirror lock). Mirror lock is linked to using the self timer only, so that there would be no need to hit the shutter button again to drop down the mirror (it only works when the self timer is set and automatically drops down the mirror when the photo is completed). When using Bulb, holding down the shutter button keeps the shutter upon and releasing the shutter button closes the shutter. I don't know what settings could have caused the issue you outlined.<br> You can certainly operate the camera without film.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_heagen Posted April 4, 2010 Author Share Posted April 4, 2010 <p>First, where is B bulb setting on the camera? Several of you have mentioned it but I do not see it.<br> I concluded it is a glitch in the chip at this point. It is very intermittent but happens on several different settings, although mostly aperture-biased settings. Getting worse by the day. Shame to put much money into an old film camera that I can buy on eBay for $75 but I am stocked with more lenses that money with which to buy new ones to fit a decent digital.</p> <p>Thanks for the help. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Katz Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 <p>Bulb is the shutter speed setting after the 30 second setting (setting the shutter speed in M or Tv mode).</p> <p>This may help you navigate the settings on the camera: http://www.eosdoc.com/manuals/?q=ElanII</p> <p>It sounds as if you camera is malfunctioning or perhaps it needs a battery or you have a problem with battery compartment (see the referenced website under "known problems"). Would not spend money to fix since used EOS film cameras are quite cheap.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_heagen Posted April 8, 2010 Author Share Posted April 8, 2010 <p>Kenneth,</p> <p>You were right -- it was getting defective on me. I ditched it and got a nice EOS 7n to carry me for another couple of years before I cave in for a used 10M+ digital. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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