Orangutan takes photos

[robert_wilson11]

<p>That's good but does she have a photo.net account?</p>

<p > <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-10408626-36.html?tag=nl.e703">http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-10408626-36.html?tag=nl.e703</a></p>

 

[MichaelChang]

<p>I'd like to see a non-human primate pick up a dSLR, bring it up to its eye and click the shutter. It would be more exciting than an orangutan pushing a button to get raisins. </p>

[colin carron]

<p>posting difficulties...sorry.</p>

[colin carron]

<p>I've seen film of an Orangutan paddling a canoe with her baby as passenger. Many Orangutan are having to be rescued as logging destroys their natural habitat. While in human care they pick up all sorts of tips and hints from us. There may be a parallel with neanderthals. Their stone tools appear to have stayed fairly static for a long perod with very little change until the overlap with modern humans. Then the neanderthals technology advanced too.</p>

[jpo3136b]

<p>How many people will tell this Orang she's not ready to be a pro photographer?</p>

[jpo3136b]

<ul>

<li>"You need at least 3 more raisins before you are ready to photograph a wedding."</li>

<li>"It would really help you to <em>assist someone else</em> in getting the raisins before you try on your own."</li>

<li>"You really need to step up to a DSLR if you are charging raisins."</li>

<li>"Do you expect me to pay you raisins for an in-camera JPG?"</li>

<li>"Use the rules of composition to draw attention to the raisins."</li>

<li>"It's not 'street' if you don't get out of the zoo. Unless that zoo is New York, L.A., San Francisco . . ."</li>

<li>"Galleries usually take a 30% cut of all raisins."</li>

<li>"The ________ administration ruined photography for raisins by passing/ignoring _____ law."</li>

<li>"[Corporate website] is trying to steal the copyright on your photos; they will demand royalties from your raisin collection in the future, as part of some evil, information hogging, conspiracy."</li>

<li>"I'm not so sure reprinting those photo the Orang made constitutes fair use. You should bill those people for a pack of raisins."</li>

<li>"You begin by billing one or two raisins an hour, and then gradually build up to several packs."</li>

<li>"Is it a photo, if an orang made it? If so, is it postmodernist or strait?"</li>

<li>"These photos feature fully nude orangutans, and they're not filed under NSFW. Decency, people, please!"</li>

<li>"3/3. The orang never rates me 6/6."</li>

</ul>

[dbcooper]

<p>So what's next...chimping? :)</p>

[jim_momary]

<p>The orang is obviously dumb.<br>

It has chosen a P&S which we all know cannot ever be used due to its inherent shutter delay.<br>

Further, by choosing a Samsung (good Lord), she snubs the argument of Nikon vs. Canon .. which would a wise ape select?<br>

I wonder what does she use to get to Facebook ? ... Mozilla or Gorilla?<br>

Jim</p>

[philipward]

<p>Gary Fong already has a flash diffuser/raisin dispenser in production.Should be good for grumpy bridesmaids.</p>

[hal_b]

<p>A million oragutans with a million cameras eating raisins forever will eventually churn out a masterpiece photograph. But who wants to clean up all that raisin-chunky orangutan poo after their wedding reception?</p>

[JDMvW]

<p>John O'K- Well played, well conceived, and right on the mark.</p>

<p>Wish I'd said that. ;)</p>

<p>That said, there is a certain resemblance to certain art photography I've seen.....</p>

[brucecahn]

<p>Nonja ought to be told she would be better off hanging out at the beauty salon with the other girls.</p>

[jpo3136b]

<p>Thanks, JDM. ". . . resemblence . . . " DOH!</p>

<p><br /> ". . . hanging out at the beauty salon . . ."<br /> It's only a matter of time before she ends up posing in Bruce's studio.</p>

<ul>

<li>"He said the pictures would be tasteful. I was young. I needed money for college." Sniff.</li>

</ul>

[brucecahn]

<p>John: Are you calling my models monkeys?</p>

[patrick j dempsey]

<p>"I'd like to see a non-human primate pick up a dSLR, bring it up to its eye and click the shutter. It would be more exciting than an orangutan pushing a button to get raisins."</p>

<p>http://www.koko.org/news/Events/event_051018_ASME_Award.html</p>

<p>DSLR's are for sissies.</p>

[albertdarmali]

<p>Funnily enough the pictures taken by the Orangutan is better than my pictures.</p>

[JDMvW]

<p>Actually, problem-solving ability in orangutans is pretty high. There is a classic study done some time ago that seems to show that they follow mental plans in learning how to use things (maybe this link will work to a Google page, <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=SXJHUX-DKacC&pg=PA321&lpg=PA321&dq=julius+orangutan&source=bl&ots=RtQ0j4bTh2&sig=_ZfhRMtmdOBm2xvEkbP3VVU5GbM&hl=en&ei=g8sZS-PyAaHkngejjtS9BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=13&ved=0CEYQ6AEwDA#v=onepage&q=julius%20orangutan&f=false">link</a> , but this is the earlier study and a later one seemed to suggest that the errors Yerkes encountered were systematic resulting from bad <em>models</em> ). The orang in question was known as Julius, of course, which seems to be a common name chosen for orangs (joke based on Orange Julius).</p>

[mark_chartrand]

<p>Funny, I was just reading that book a couple days ago and wondering if someone would discuss it on Photo.net.</p>

[James G. Dainis]

Patrick,

 

In that link, Koko is holding the camera horizontally and yet the photo is shown in a vertical format. Obviously it was cropped to reduce bad framing. The lens to me looks a bit squished to an oval shape suggesting some other correcting work was done in the darkroom, tilting the lens board or easel. And on top of everything else she has some really bad bokeh there.

[michael_dimarzio]

<p>As soon as it gets a Biz card it will be a wedding photographer.</p>

[michael_oxford]

<p>wasn't there an old National Geographic where they had an ape shooting with an OM-1? ... and the pictures weren't bad actually. these .. suck. (although this is <em>extremely relative</em> )</p>

[patrick j dempsey]

<p>James, the image was shot into a mirror... no doubt a shatterproof mirror, probably polished metal, inside of Koko's cage. Distortion is probably due to a slight warp in the metal. I'm sure the image was cropped... it's a magazine cover and magazines are vertical format. In fact, I think you would be hard pressed to find very many magazine covers that are not cropped and you would certainly be hard pressed to find any magazine covers today without dramatic and often garrish Photoshoping, which obviously this image has not had, being somewhat older than Photoshop. Whatever the purpose of your condescension, this is still one of the single most amazing photographs ever taken. This gorilla learned how to use a very complex tool, recognized ITSELF through a viewfinder and in a mirror, and took a photo of itself. Considering that prior to this, human beings were considered the only creatures on the planet capable of using tools, creating art, and recognizing themselves in a mirror, I'd say there's more to this image than distortion and cropping. </p>

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<p><em>So what's next...chimping? :)</em><br>

Classic :)<br>

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