Neopan acros 100 @25-50 with Xtol

[moises levy]

<p>Hi:</p>

<p>I'm trying explore a new alternative with Neopan Acros 100 , (expose to the shadows and develop to the hightlights), anyone has experience shooting this film at 25 or 50 asa (overexpose) and underdevelop with Xtol ? how big could be the latitud for this combination, I'm shooting long exposures (3-6 mins) with a Hassel V. (www.moiseslevy.com) I thought maybe someone has explore the combination and has some advice.</p>

<p>Thank you in advance.</p>

 

[cmonkey]

<p>Beautiful work, Moises. I really like your website. I use Acros extensively (well, Neopan SS usually, where I buy it). I find the shadows block up a lot anyway when overexposed so I tend to go the other way, underexposing and overdeveloping. By over-exposing and shortening the development time, you'd be compressing the tonal range, yeilding higher contrast. Is that the way you want to go?</p>

[moises levy]

I used to work with Velvia 50 because it is very easy to scan but the tonal range is very short and I had some problems with the lab, so I decided to shoot BW film and develop myself to avoid any risk with a lab, I decide to shoot Neopan because I read it has almost no reciprocity failure for long exposures,(I need low iso for the long exposures also) and what I'm looking for is to obtain the widest tonal range with long exposures and very sharp images, and because I'm new in the lab I want to find the easiest way to go for.

 

 

Thank you for interest.

[henry_a]

<p>50 is not that much over for Acros, I normally shoot Acros at 80. I use Xtol 1:3 for about 12 minutes depending on temperature. Just cut your time back a bit if you expose it at 50. And don't forget that you can use a neutral density filter to slow your exposure times down.</p>

[User_502260]

<p>My favorite ACROS combination is rating the film at 100 and developing in undiluted Fuji Microfine.</p>

[kari v]

<p>I haven't tried Acros but dilute Xtol (mostly 1:3) seems to work very well with slower and contrasty films like PanF+50 (@16-25) and APX 100 (@50). Very nice range even in rather extreme conditions.<br /> Perhaps EI 50, 1:3, 10,5min, 20C for Acros?</p>

<p>Cheryl, how do you block shadows by overexposing?</p>

[pc_b]

<p>Cheryl, you are currently underdeveloping your films if your dark areas (in the print!) block up. Read up somewhere (books are better than the internet, usually) as you might have gotten it 180 degrees wrong.<br>

And: Neopan SS is not Acros – at all! You'll be surprised when you get to compare them on your light table and will weep after the first big print (for not having found out about the "real Acros" sooner).<br>

No reason to despair though.</p>

<p>Moises, why don't you do a roll at 100 and a roll at 25ASA in parallel and see for yourself (65 to 70% of the 100ASA time)? Grain will barely improve from 50ASA and I never saw and advantage in going under 50ASA for better tones, but that is ME - not you!<br>

Pete</p>

[cmonkey]

<p>Sorry Pete, my mistake. I meant the highlights, obviously, not shadows. I learned what I know by more than just the Internet and books, so don't be rude.</p>

<p>I know in the states, if you order imported Fuji Acros from Freestyle, you get SS.</p>

<p>And finally, you ought to learn some manners and tact. Cheryl</p>

[jira]

<p>Hello,</p>

<p>I use Across 100@25 and develop in XTOL 1:1. Works well for my needs, which seem to be similar to yours: low contrast, great tonal range negatives.</p>

[moises levy]

<p>Hello Jiri<br>

How long you give to Xtol 1:1 @25 ??</p>

<p>Thank you</p>

[jira]

<p>I'm using Jobo processor and do 5,25 min. That is for low contrast negs - I guess something like N-1 in zone system terms.</p>

[jay_de_fehr]

<p>Moises,<br>

It's clear from your work you know quite a lot about exposure and development, so when you say you need more exposure and less development, I take you at your word. Acros is my favorite "slow" film, for the same reasons you cite, although I'm more likely to expose at EI 200 than at EI 50. Overexposure serves only to increase density, the appearance of grain, to reduce sharpness, and compromise gradation, but if your exposure conditions indicate EI 25-50, that is not overexposure, it is appropriate exposure.<br>

Contrary to what Cheryls writes above (sorry Cheryl), increased exposure and reduced development will yield LOWER contrast, not higher, which is probably just what you're seeking. It's much easier to increase contrast in post processing than to decrease it, but be aware of the limitations of the approach and the penalties for exceding them.</p>

[fourthst]

<p>Hi Moises, I recently started shooting Acros 100 @ 50 but process in PMK pyro. I shoot pinhole so my exposures are often several minutes. I've been quite impressed with the results. I intend to do some long exposure lens photography with my hassy in the near future and will start with the Acros/PMK combo. Whether you use Xtol or another developer I would encourage you to give Acros @ 50 a try yourself. Your work is really quite lovely.</p>

[marek_fogiel]

<p>I dislike Xtol in principle, as I prefer high acutance and great tonality over the finest grain. I shot some Acros at EI 50 in night conditions and developed in Prescysol EF - similar to Pyrocat HD, I like the results.<br>

 

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[marek_fogiel]

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[moises levy]

Hi everyone:

 

Thank you for your responses and comments, do anyone knows the developing time for Xtol and Neopan Acros @50 1:2 and 1:3 ?

 

Regards