calvin_choy Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 <p>Hi everyone,<br> I have read on the internet that the white pull out bounce card can be used in order to get those catchy eyes effect. Unfortunately, I didn't know that the 430EX II of canon doesn't included one :s, I thought it was something every flash has...<br> Anyway, can anyone tell me how to get those catchy eyes effect ? When the flash is directed to the subject it is no problem to get the nice looking eyes, but if I am bouncing off the ceiling for example, how can I still get those catchy eye effect? If I had the white bounce card it will be easy . . . any other options ? Can I just pull out the diffuse plate and use that instead ? Or is the best solution to just get a white business card or something and hold that behind the flash units ?</p> <p>thnx</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belman Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 <p>To diffuse the light and obtain catch lights, try an after-market diffuser. There are many that work quite well. I like the Gary Fong models.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 <p>[[i have read on the internet that the white pull out bounce card can be used in order to get those catchy eyes effect. Unfortunately, I didn't know that the 430EX II of canon doesn't included one :]]</p> <p>A rubber band and a white index card work just as well.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin_choy Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 <p>I didnt know that the diffusers will also help with getting catch light effect in the eyes. I thought usually you will point the flash with the diffuser in the direction of the ceiling and get soft "natural" overall lighting and therefore missing the sharp directed catch light.</p> <p>thnx for the tip :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 <p>If you don't need much fill, just use direct flash dial it down a stop or 2 using FEC. You'll get the "eye sparkle" just fine. And, yes, I sometimes use a rubberband and white card for catchlights if I'm bouncing the mainly flash off the ceiling.</p> Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 <p>Better yet, get your flash off-camera. For me it's flash in left hand with arm extended; camera in right, held up to my eye. FEC from -1 to -1 2/3. The light is much much nicer...</p> www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbiinc Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 <p>"A rubber band and a white index card work just as well."<br> I have also used a white index card cut to just fit into the slot of the wide angle flap.<br> Also check out http://www.abetterbouncecard.com/ It's not really a catchlight but it's kinda close to the subject.</p> <p>Dan</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_ollinger Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 <p>I prefer to Photoshop the catch-lights in (add a blank layer, paint a white spot (or whatever design), then back off on opacity a little to give it a natural look). The nice thing about that is you get full control over it. You can make them big, small, obvious, discreet, whatever.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin_choy Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 <p>thnx for the tips guys./gals The rubberband method was the first thing I thought off, but just wondering if people here have some more elegant solutions :D.</p> <p>I see that there are also flash kits where you can attach all kinds of stuff on it using velco. I assume that you can just get velco in the store and then create one that fits your camera, that would easier to get things setup quickly.</p> <p>I have never tried flash off camera . . . I am stil new to flashing and always have to take several shots to get the correct setting for my flash. Flash off camera sounds so advance hehe . . .but I definetly want to try that one since it gives me more creative control. I have no idea where to get started though. I think I will need so purchase a cable? I dont think my 450D support wireless flash off camera...</p> <p>I think the photoshop will be the last solution I take . . . no offence but I like to get as much as possible directly from the camera. Gives me more a feeling of it being a real photo :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfonso_valdes Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 <p>What Rob said. I have been experimenting with a paper plate or paper bowl with reasonable results. The advantage of this over a card is that the curve bounces more of the flash on the subject than you would get from a straight card:<br> http://www.flickr.com/photos/29421278@N00/3148395516/</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_holland Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 <p>Check out youtube for a video describing "<em>a better bounce card</em> ". I think it is cool, even if it is a little awkward. Works at least as well as the stofen. But for catchlights, neither is better. In bright sunlight, or outdoors, use direct flash. You diffuse for better quality light, with little effect on the catchlight. Diffuse to get rid of that amateur 'deer in the headlights' paparazzi grab shot.</p> <p>Dave</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcelRomviel Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 <p>You can look at this link<br> http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-flash/<br> for tips about flashphotography</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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