kevcross Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Hello all, I just bought a Sinar F2 body and have been looking for a lens to go with it but I'm not sure what focal lengthto get. I'd like to use the camera mainly for landscape and architecture but enjoying shooting all kinds ofsubjects. So my question for all you 4x5 users is what subjects do you like to shoot and what focal lengths doyou find most useful in photographing them? Thanks! Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darinheinz Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Hi Kevin. For general use, my 210mm works great. It's just a tiny bit longer than "normal" as focal lengths go, but it does the job when I need it to. For wider applications, I have a 135mm, which is nice when doing landscape shots (or the distorted fashion model photo in the desert... that sort of thing). I haven't used Sinar (Cambo owner since I was infected with "the Bug"), so you might find more affordable alternatives in similar lengths. 200-210 is a good starting point. Hope this helps! Darin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_menesdorfer Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I would suggest a wa, normal and the tele combination and than you have lenses for everything. My lenses are oversized for the 4x5 and has image circle which cover 5x7 well or very close to that. It's because of the camera movements. I want to be sure that I have all extras when I need it and don't need to have a centerfilter on the WA lens. So be wise and think before you invest. Even if you not getting a tele its useful to have one longer lens like on the 300mm range. I find that the lenses I use most are the wide and the tele, but it deepens what kind of work you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_briggs2 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 There are many possible choices of focal lengths and focal length combinations. For a normal lens the most popular choices are 150, 180 or 210. Many will argue for the focal length that they use; probably you will come to like whichever you pick. I use a 180 mm lens -- I selected this focal length because it gives a bit of extra coverage without being that much narrower than 150. For several years it was my only lens and is still by far my most used lens. My second most used lens is a moderate wide, a 110 mm. I use this for landscape, cityscapes, architecture, and closer views. For longer views a 270 or 300 mm is a good step up. For cases where the 110 mm isn't wide enough (tall building, close building, etc.) I use a 72 mm Super-Angulon-XL. I suggest starting with a normal lens of 150, 180 or 210. With architecture you will need a wider lens. If you are on a budget the least expensive is a 90 mm. If you have a larger budget you get can two, a moderate wide and a very wide. I like to space the focal lengths apart by about a factor of x1.5 or 1.7. Any closer and the lenses are not different enough and not worth the effort / weight to carry. Much farther apart and it seem that the gap is too large. (At the extreme wide angle end the spacing can be closer.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_norman2 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 If you will start with 2 lenses, the 90 for architecture and 210 for landscape. I agree with the other comments that 150/180 is a great range, also. If you went with those 3, you'd be in great shape. Of course, particular preferences or subject matters might suggest either wider or longer than those mentioned. If you like panoramic landscapes, for example, the Schneider 58mm XL works well. If I was only going to have one lens on 4x5, it would probably be 210, which also works well for macro. Think carefully about what you want to shoot. You might consider renting some lenses to shoot over a weekend. That would give you a good idea about your own tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 90mm /4.5 and 180mm f/5.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragc Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 My answer will be a bit repetitious. I shoot 4x5 and 5x7 and can swap lenses so I have tried many focal lengths on both formats. Image circle is of great importance, and that depends on a particular lens' design more than anything else. Having said that I will stick to the question: I favor wide angles. A 90mm is always with me. As a standard I've begun using a 135mm instread of the 150mm I was using and I am liking it a lot better. For a long I use a 210/370 convertible lens (but not frequently). Nowdays I leave the house packing smaller, lighter lenses unless I am doing 5x7. My 4x5 light 90 is an Angulon f6.9 (watch the smallish image circle here). The 135mm is a Nikkor-W f5.6. The 150mm is a Fujinon f6,3. The convertible 210/370 does not fit the light and small description, but is a Symmar f5.6-12. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy_larson Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I use 110,150,240,300 and 450 for landscape shooting. If I had to use just one lens I would choose the 150mm Sironar S for landscape use. This is a gentle wide lens on the 4x5. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 127mm ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin carron Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 65mm for many subjects esecially landscape and architecture. 90mm next.Then 210 / 270 for some landscapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bohdan_pryszlak Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 If you are thinking of just getting going with one lens then start with a 150mm. I have a 90 and a 210 but tend to use the 150 75% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrepsom1 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 90mm and 150mm (and sometimes a 65mm) for landscapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockethead26 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I use all of my lenses on my 4x5 including 75, 110, 150, 210 and 300. I find myself reaching for the 210 well over half of the time. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan_geschke Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Hi. I shoot landscape and architecture. I started out with 90mm, 150mm and 300mm. Some of my all time favourite pictures where taken with the 150mm lens. I personally found the 300mm too long. Not so much in terms of focal length, but in terms of bellows extension. I found the camera unstable on the tripod at this long extension, the bellows was stretched to its limit whenever I took a picture at a closer distance. I now use 75mm, 135mm and 240mm. The main point is that you can always crop, especially with LF. This set (75 Nikkor, 135mm APO Sironar S and 240mm APO Ronar) is compact, sharp, contrasty and not too expensive. All lenses allow reasonable, but not excessive movement. If I need as much shift as I had with my 90mm lens, I just take the 75mm and crop. But the 90mm couldn't go as wide as the 75mm lens. The same arguments work for 135mm vs 150mm and for 240mm vs 300mm. Stefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eajames Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I'll cast another vote for a 150mm lens. I have seven focal lengths and use my 150mm for roughly 50% of my shots (landscapes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnanian Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 10" veritar 127 tominon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonio.giacomo Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Hi Kevin, I was told that the "standard" lens for 5x4 would be 150mm, because that is roughly the diagonal of the frame. However, for architecture and landscape I found a Rodenstock 180mm OK for most situations. If I want something a bit wider, I use a Nikon 135mm. If it is an architectural interior, I usually use a Schneider 90mm Super Angulon, which is a massive lump of glass, but it does cover 7x5, so there is a lot of movement possible on 5x4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsimmons Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 For architecture (my primary activity) I use, in this order, 90, 150, 55 (sometimes cropped to the image needed), 250. For landscapes, I use, in this order, 250, 150, 90, 55. That sequence of lenses for architecture is fairly standard for commercial architectural work, but the landscape sequence is just my personal way of approaching landscape. John Dykinga uses a 58mm far more than I do my 55. But for just two lenses I think that Ellis (as always!) has it right - 90 and 180. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric_brody Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 The 210 is an ideal landscape lens. 180 is ok as well. Unless you have specific projects that demand a wider angle, I would not be in a hurry to buy additional lenses, whatever you get for a first lens, since it sounds like 4x5 is new to you. It is complex enough just getting an exposure made without fussing about which lens to use. Way back when, when I started with 4x5, I had only a 210, recommended by my dealer, for over a year. I learned a lot about 4x5 photography and what the lens would and would not do. I then got a 90. I still have both but use the 210 more than any other. Now, I probably have too many since it can take me a while to decide which one to use. Move slowly on lens purchases. 4x5 is a slow process anyway. Good luck. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevcross Posted November 17, 2008 Author Share Posted November 17, 2008 Thanks guys! It nice to read over the variety responses. I really appreciate your collective insight. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_chmilar Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 My lens kit (for landscape) with a rough estimate of frequency used: 180mm 58%, 110mm 35%, 300mm 4%, 80mm 3% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettdeacon Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 For landscapes, 110 is easily my favorite focal length and is used far more often than my 75, 150, and 240 lenses. Of course, it doesn't hurt that my Schneider 110 XL lens is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentbaig Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 75mm for super wide, 135mm for normal, 240mm for longer, 400 for longer still. I probably use my 135 more than any other lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john romano Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 90% of my 4x5 shots with the Schneider 210 APO. The remainder with 135 or 150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friedemann_pistorius Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 I started with Congo 90, 180 and 300 lenses. After a few years I replaced them by Nikon 90/8, Fuji 135, Nikon 200 and 300 lenses, later I added Schneider 58 and Fuji 450 lenses. <br>Since I shoot primarily landscapes, my main concern was weight and size. <p>Over the last 2 years, I purchased Schneider 80, 150 L and 270 lenses as a long-distance-hiking set. <br>For the little architecture I do I occasionally use an older Fujinon-W 135 (228mm image circle!) and a Schneider G-Claron 240. <p>All lenses are very similar in terms of sharpness, contrast, color balance etc. <p>I love and use all my lenses, but recently - believe it or not - I sometimes find myself thinking about returning to the 90 - 180 - 300 set... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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