BratNikotin Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 <p>Hi, came to an unusual (to me) situation.<br>I hang out a lot on local concerts and jams, for the purpose of photography. And there is a professional photographer who comes over every now and then. He is not a friend or anything of sorts, but we talk and hang out while on the subject. <br>Recently he saw me posting some pics on a fb, praised me, and offered to give me some lessons.<br />Now, I can imagine its a common practice to find an instructor this way, but he did not say anything about compensation. Now, he is commercially a working photographer. I am wandering if I agree to take some lessons from him, how much can it hurt financially?<br>Thanks.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qalam Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 You could just say that you would like to have some lessons but that you can't afford to pay anything. If they are free, he will tell you. If not, he will tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelChang Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 <p>I'd go further to make intentions clear on both sides. </p> <p>Free lessons, if that's what he's offering, from someone you barely know suggests the expectation of social reciprocity, or worse, ulterior motives. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 <p>Give it a try. Meet somewhere over coffee or a beer and chat about it. Find out whether you have some rapport, or some creative spark that might work. Even if the deal involves paying for lessons give it a try.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan2240 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 <p>Tend to agree with Michael, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't do what Lex suggests to feel him out. Even if this is his way of asking for a date, could turn out that you actually like the guy, and a white picket fence and 2.3 kids are just around the corner.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelChang Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 <p>Bill, my reply might have been skewed by my recent viewing of Robin Williams' "One Hour Photo". :-) </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G. Dainis Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 I don't know what is meant by "lessons". Are we talking about a formal classroom or are we talking about advice during a photo shoot? How much advice has to be given before it becomes a lesson? Consider: " I want a good shot of the lead guitarist. Since most people look at a photo the same way they read, from top left to bottom right, I will place him slightly off to the left in the frame and the drummer in the background will be off to the right and lower. I will use a wide aperture to get a narrow depth of field to have the guitarist in sharp focus but the drummer in the background will be blurred out slightly." Would you say that was advice or a lesson in composition and depth of field? James G. Dainis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan2240 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 <p>Michael, thank God (or whomever) for digital and in-home printing, eh?</p> <p>James, I also wondered what 'lessons' implied. If he invites her/him (not sure what gender the name 'Dima' is normally associated with) up to see his 'etchings,' hope she knows what to expect.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BratNikotin Posted September 26, 2014 Author Share Posted September 26, 2014 <p>Wow !! :) Soo much responses:) <br /> Just to clarify .. we are both men, both adults, and with everything all right about us. And though not close friends, know each other on a "pal" and "hi-bye" level :)<br> <br />I wasn't asking what to be aware of :) But thanks for caring ..<br /> I was just trying to find out going market rate :) I don't want to ask him for a free lesson and at the same time do not want to entice him as an easy paying client :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan2240 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 <p>Dima,</p> <p>In that case, do you think you could actually gain anything from lessons, and if so, perhaps just ask how much and see what he says. I don't know that there is a precedent for this because I don't think people normally take private photography lessons (though I could be wrong of course). If he says 'no charge,' then I'd just offer to buy him dinner and drinks.<br> Bill</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 <p>An epiphany of sorts!</p> <p>It just occurred to me that one of the reasons I like Photo.net is that it has lots of similarity to the NPR "Car Talk", except about cameras.</p> <p>Here we are giving social advice, like Tom and Ray. ;)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 <p>Regarding fees for lessons, several years ago when I was getting into watercolor I occasionally met with a local artist for critique sessions. Not formal lessons, mostly to talk about and demonstrate techniques, etc. And I've done that with photographers when I was learning darkroom techniques, etc. Usually I'd pay $10-$20 a session. That was 10 or more years ago and I don't know what the appropriate rate would be today. But it's something you can talk about if you decide the experienced photographer and you are compatible.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_shearman1 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 <p>I'd tell him I'm very interested and ask what he's proposing.<br /><br />Professional photographers are often looking for assistants, and that's the best way for an aspiring photographer to learn. Experienced assistants gets paid. But if you're willing to trade your time for his expertise until you get to that point, it could be a good deal for both of you.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 <p>I do concert photography and I have taught people I see at shows. The reason is simple. I sometimes need a photographer to fill in for me due to scheduling and I want to give the promoter/band/magazine someone I know can a) do the job in the way I would do it, and b) isn't going to take the client. Very simple. Maybe that's why I didn't have a paranoid reaction to the question.</p> <p> </p> Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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