bobatkins Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 "thre are people who don't have tens of thousands to spend but want large sensors and interchangeable lenses" True, but many of them want a 40x optical zoom like they can get for $300 on a real videocamera - and a 40x zoom that starts out at f1.8 too. At best you can maybe get a slow 12x zoom on a DSLR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofoto Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 The really clever thing would be to add SAT NAV. That way it would encourage me to always have the camera in the car. If it's in the car I have to remove it when I leave the car thus ensuring I have the camera with me at all times just in case I need it. No need for a P&S then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soe_post Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 If the D90 had come out when I was back in school, studying graphic design, I would have bought it for sure. Having the ability to capture DOF in motion using great lenses alone is well worth purchasing. Capturing design processes in low-light studios could also be done with the camera. While the video features on the D90 may not be perfect, it's definitely useful for many people--especially for graphic designers, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfred_mathis1 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Well, looks like it will be full 1080p. I know I was against it in my earlier post and still not a feature that will probably get much use from me, but now that it is a reality, I am willing to give it a bit of a chance. For those not still up, the specs are listed at: http://www.dpreview.com I came across the announcement on one of the modeling forums I frequent just before I was about to go to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimstrutz Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Yep. Pretty much what people were expecting of the 5DII, but surprisingly it does have video. I'm not sure that's a strong selling point in a semi-pro camera, but it's in there, and will be used by some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdigi Posted September 17, 2008 Author Share Posted September 17, 2008 Wow I am shocked they put it in a 5D. Looks impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry nguyen cuu - nomad Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Heheheh. Give him the hand and he'll ask for he whole arm. Almost, if not all photographers, including wedding photographers, and myself, design, create and SELL slide show to clients. The world has changed my friends, accept and live with it (the video mode) or just turn it off and keep shooting. The main reason why I bought the G9 was not for its RAW capability but for its video function, now I have a Sony HDRTG1. I have noticed that playing a slide show, during the reception, including video sequences has boosted my business and having a camera capable of full HD, obviously with quality lenses... Yes, I WILL use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry nguyen cuu - nomad Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Oh, have you noticed that when you hand over your D-SLR to someone, he/she would check the LCD instead of looking TTL ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierry nguyen cuu - nomad Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Is there any VIDEOGRAPHER here who would complain about their camcorder can take photos as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdigi Posted September 17, 2008 Author Share Posted September 17, 2008 I don't shoot weddings but I am in the wedding business and I see less and less videographers I think now you will see even less. I always thought having short clips of special moments would be better then an entire wedding video and here we are. I must admit I had no intentions of getting a 5DII but the HD video capability kinda got me thinking. For me its really a nice feature for travel and family events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25asa Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I'll admit this- I WILL use this feature should I get this camera (and Im leaning that way). First off using excellent lenses with the sharpness only some video cameras dream of. Secondly it has a larger sensor then most video cameras, so its most likely going to produce a better picture in 1080P. Thirdly it uses 38 megabits of compression which is WAY higher then most video cameras, so again the picture quality will be improved. And I've seen the samples it makes and they do look very good. I could even seeing indi film school people using this camera to make movies since the quality is up there. If I got this camera, the video it produces would be enough for me to leave my HDV video camera home on trips. And you can plug mikes into this thing which means you can select a better mike then what most video cameras have. I think the video feature is a usefull one on this camera. Set it to a high iso and get excellent low light video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_smith2 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Here is a 'Hell Yes' answer. I shoot autoracing 70-80 nights a year. If I had a button to push to catch 5 seconds of video some very close racing or an accident, I would be thrilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave92029 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I have a 9G, and took my first video clip at a sporting event, boy was I surprised how much I liked it. The quality was just ok but the addition of sound really adds an other dimension to the experience. The combination of the still photos and a few select videos is awesome. I now enjoy supplementing my still photos with the sound and motion of a few select videos. I will be getting a 5DmkII. The FF IQ and other improvements, plus the "small size and weight" make this the ideal travel camera. I am so glad I waited and didn't get an old 5D. The price differenece between the Old 5D and the New 5D mkII is insignificant vs the improved features. There is a regular self proclaimed sage on this forum who was pushing the combination of the 40D and old 5D. I knew Canon could do a lot better because of what Nikon was selling. That Forum sage was so wrong, and I'm so happy i didn't follow his advise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfonso_valdes Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Still and video are totally different, and I fear having a DSLR do HD video will involve compromise in one or both functions, or price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
len_kocurek Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I would love HD video on a 21 mp DSLR. I don't see any downside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25asa Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 "Still and video are totally different, and I fear having a DSLR do HD video will involve compromise in one or both functions, or price." Based on the video clips shown on the other post for the 5DII, the video looks very good indeed. I'd say it will give a better picture then a dedicated video camera. I mean 38 mbps compression- most video cameras are at best 25 mbps. So that is a lot of extra bits to give a better picture. Plus the better lenses as well on the SLR vs video cameras. The only problem I'd see is how to edit such video in Adobe Premiere/ Premiere Elements. This could be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
images_in_light_north_west Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 How a couple of days changes things, i am looking forward to shooting 1080p from the 5D mkII, I think there will be some great opportunities, I go places that every day people dont at the right time (light) and sometimes a single shot will not do justice to what you see. You cab take short videos between shoots, its just a differant form of media and I doubt it adds mutch cost to the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_sabin Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 I'd rather see the camera priced lower without the video feature. Seems the feature adds to cost and complexity to some degree. Honestly,if I wanted to shoot video I'd buy a video camera.Does it come with a microphone for sound as well? Now that I've said that it probably does, or will on the next model. Then again look how cell phones have evolved. Heaven help me, it takes me enough time to learn and use all the camera functions and their consequences to their full extent, although it does get easier with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twertman Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Well I'm glad I picked up the "old" 5D a few moths ago for $1800 and did not wait for the new mkII. After all it was the talk of the town for 3 years and most people raved about IQ. So all of a sudden it is not? I won't miss HD video or 21mp for what I need a camera for. I'm not getting caught up in the "gotta have it" syndrome that companies prey on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenPapai Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 How does the video work on the 5D2? Is the shutter electronic? Surely it doesn't open/close 30x/second does it? Like an adaptation of Live View but directly captured? If so the shutter must be purely electronic simply turning the sensor "on and off". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soe_post Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 "Who else would like HD video on a Canon DSLR?" Mmm..young, creative talents under 40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evphotography Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 At first I thought having video was nice, but not something I would probably use. But after seeing a great sample video from Vincent Laforet, I myself am pretty excited about it. Boy how much nicer that would have been when I attended my son's graduation this year. So when I start thinking about times it would be nice to shoot video I realize that this is going to be a welcome feature to have. From what I have read and samples I have seen, it definetly DOES NOT take away from camera's ability to capture awesome stills, far from it. Anyone who hasn't seen the sample video Vincent produced you need to check it out, very impressive. http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=2086 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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