ted_lee1 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I thought there was a chance it may have been the body initially, but I tested my other lenses and they were all fine. I had the first Tamron I returned at the beginning of July, and returned the third one about a week ago. Sending a cd with some shots and charts may be worth doing in the future if I ever have anything like this to deal with again. It’s interesting to compare the bokeh in the the Tamron and the Sigma flower shots, there seems to be a definite difference between them. I’m now considering getting the Sigma as an alternative to the Tamron, or even perhaps a 35mm f2 to compliment my 77Ltd. Looking at some of the pictures from the Tamron lenses I returned you’d never believe it was the same lens as the ones you are seeing on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted_lee1 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I was aiming for a lens setup of Sigma 10-20mm, Tamron 28-75mm, Tamron 70-200 and a low light prime, but the Tamrons quality problems have knocked out that idea and its back to the drawing board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgredline Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 Ted, weather you choose Tamron or Sigma, you can't go wrong with either choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserere_mei Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Dave, it's not you that underexposes the photos, it's your camera. What IS your fault is that you didn't add +1 EV :-) I don't know what it is with flowers, but my K10D ALWAYS wants to underexpose them. I think it must be ALL cameras because Flickr is full of underexposed flowers. Your last shot is very nice, I just wish the flower were lower in the frame, possibly just leaving the top two leaves and having a whole bunch of swirling green in the top 2/3 of the frame. This framing would also get rid of that distracting purple flower in the bottom-right corner. Oh wait, this isn't the critique forum, is it? Rats... Sorry Dave! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgredline Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 Mis, brings up a great point....Every one of my digital Pentax cameras under expose...In fact +3 ev is o for me...An underexposed image will not be sharp and be noisy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_tong1 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 >>>>>>>Dave Hollander : Thanks for coming to the rescue, Daniel--Sigma owes you! :~<<<<<<<<<< Well it is just a lens. I am defending nothing. But if people have interest in the lens I can post some image for their reference. One thing I have never engaged is defending any of my gear. If people get a lemon/dud which happens all the time so be it. And a lot of time we have heated debate in several forums which sometimes get personal . Comparing the performance of primes is difficult enough. Comparing different zooms at diff FL is next to impossible. BTW Dave The histogram of the underexposed image should have alerted you of the need for +EV Daniel, Toronto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shots worth sharing Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I can do that, Mis, (but it's just a test shot ;~) But you're wrong: if it's a consistent characteristic of the camera, I should make the appropriate adjustment--and, as Daniel points out, I should have known by paying attention to the histogram. In any case, I've concluded that the Tamron is an interesting and very capable lens and that I'm happy with my Sigma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_yee Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Ted: I was thinking of the same combo eventually if I found a good Tamron 28-75 copy so I could get rid of my 17-70. Do you have any pics of results from your bad lenses? I should have written down all my serial#s so we could list them somewhere in case anyone else gets stuck with one :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserere_mei Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Dave, my K10D only underexposes under certain conditions, most notably when shooting flowers (which I don't do often). Not trying to convince you of buying the Tamron; I know you're happy with the Sigma, which is shorter at the long end, but also at the short end, so I wouldn't even compare them. Now if someone were to put out a good, compact 24-90mm f/2.8, I might get a serious case of LBA :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shots worth sharing Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 On the other hand, lusting after a non-existent lens is easier on the psyche than a real one that's out of reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heather_blanks Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Here are a couple of mine: <a href="http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk300/hwblanks/LBA%20challenge%202008/? action=view¤t=IMGP3681-2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk300/hwblanks/LBA%20challenge%202008/IMGP3681-2.jpg" border="0" alt="Tamron 28-75/2.8"></a> <a href="http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk300/hwblanks/Tammy%2028-75/?action=view¤t=IMGP3386-3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk300/hwblanks/Tammy%2028-75/IMGP3386-3.jpg" border="0" alt="Tamron 28-75/2.8"></a> This lens is the one that spends the most time on the camera. :) Heather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgredline Posted September 16, 2008 Author Share Posted September 16, 2008 Hi Folks...6 weeks ago I sent my Sigma 24-70 F/2.8 to sigma for repair because it was suffering from BF / FF issues....I also complained that that it was a slow focusing lens...This lens is known for being slow focusing because it has allot of heavy glass..It uses an 82mm filter...Anyway, what happened to this lens was not a fault of Sigma, but my fault. I dropped it about 5 feet or so and it was never the same after that...So anyway, I sent it for repair and spoke with a tech. He told me they have a completely new focusing element for that lens and was waiting for it from Japan...Anyway I got it back today and it is a rocket...It went from being super slow to one of the fastest lenses I have...It is sharp as a tack.....I also found out that my Sigma 135-400 was also fitted with a new focusing element as well and that explains why it is so quick and sharp....Anyway, here are some snap shots I took on my way home...I will take some proper images during the week..... In my truck...A silver dove on black back ground is a tough shot. <a href="http://s404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/?action=view¤t=sigma24-70f283.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/sigma24-70f283.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> - In the drive through at Arby's... Board. <a href="http://s404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/?action=view¤t=sigma24-70f2820.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/sigma24-70f2820.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> - Stopped of to shoot these flowers. <a href="http://s404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/?action=view¤t=sigma24-70f2825.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/sigma24-70f2825.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> - <a href="http://s404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/?action=view¤t=sigma24-70f2826.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/sigma24-70f2826.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> - A coin. <a href="http://s404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/?action=view¤t=sigma24-70f2829.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/sigma24-70f2829.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> - <a href="http://s404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/?action=view¤t=sigma24-70f2833.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/sigma24-70f2833.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> - The hood. <a href="http://s404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/?action=view¤t=sigma24-70f2835.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/sigma24-70f2835.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> - My kids have given me a head ache today. <a href="http://s404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/?action=view¤t=sigma24-70f2834.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp128/jgredline/sigma24-70f2834.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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