sickboy666 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Hello everybody, I'm searching for a good classic, 70's or pre 70's camera, for portraits. I'm working in high contrasts, often close-ups, inside/outside shooting. So i'm taking advices to buy something good, but i may say that i don't know anything about that kind of material.Moreover, the kind of films to use is also important.If i'm not accurate enough in my asking, please tell me!Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolan_ross Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 You did not mention the cost but I would suggest the Hassleblad 6x6. The 80mm lens is the normal length so for portraits you would seek out the 80mm and something longer. The films are of a user choice type thing but usually one of the Kodak or Fuji professional portrait films would do well. There are a number of other good medium format camera's available. They are much more capable then the 35mm size for high quality portraits. One of the nice things about the 6x6 size is you do not need to flip the camera on it's side for portraits. That can be a chore with a medium format size camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon_dragon Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 For cheap, you could consider something like a Minolta manual focus, like an X700 or a XD5 or a XE7 along with something like a 135 lens. It would certainly be very very cheap, maybe using portra film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrison_k. Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Agree with Nolan. With todays prices, look for a Hassleblad C or CM with the 80mm. Load it with the color processing b & W film from Kodak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_lofquist Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 While the "Hassy" may be the best, don't rule out the Rollei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickboy666 Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 Much information, wide choice, thank you all for your precise answers. I think i will buy two boxes thanks to your advices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickboy666 Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 Alex, what type of Rollei are you talking about? Sorry for my questions, but my knowledge in traditionnal cameras is...inexistant... Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt-photos Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I have been shooting with Hasselblad and it is a great camera. But to choose a 80mm lens for close-up portraits (because it corresponds to about 50mm lens in 35mm cameras), as some people here propose, is wrong. The right ones would be either 150mm or 250mm. For colour portraits, as Nolan mentioned, the best ones are the Kodak and Fuji professional films and accroding to my experience in b&w, the best skin tones you get with Ilford and more contrasty with Kodak Tri-x. I hope this helps.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrison_k. Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 "But to choose a 80mm lens for close-up portraits (because it corresponds to about 50mm lens in 35mm cameras), as some people here propose, is wrong. The right ones would be either 150mm or 250mm." There's no right or wrong focal length when it comes to portraits. The 80 is the "kit" lens so to speak and is found easily just like 50mm's are to small format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickboy666 Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 Thanks again for all your answers. I been wandering through the net for some Hasselblad documentation, it seems the perfect body for what i wanna do. About the lenses, i think two different ones would be perfect, either 80 and 150, if i can find them obviously...But what range of prices are considered reasonnable for it? At another level, and without any comparisons of quality, i've catched some topics on other forums about the Rollei 35 SE. What do you think about it? Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevespencer Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Mamiya RB67 and lenses can be had reasonably if you shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrison_k. Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 The RB and RZ are great cameras too. I've completely forgot about the Pentax 6x7, been so long since film was on my mind! But I'd go with a Pentax 6x7 over a 'blad. There is a lot of little things with 'blads that you need to keep an eye out for, mainly the felt on the film backs. They wear out and can light leak. Sometimes the springs in the shutter wear out and aren't accurate as well. But these are a great camera; http://www.photo.net/equipment/pentax/67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_lofquist Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I was referring to the Rolleiflex TLR. It has good 75 or 80mm lenses, either Zeiss or Schneider, and parallax compensation of the viewing screen. The square 6cm image is easy to work with, and reasonably bright. Composition on the screen shows what you get, even though DOF is not apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_de_fehr Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I own or have used just about every MF system available, but my favorite outfit for portraits is my Minolta XD-11 with 58mm f1.2 lens. I picked it up for $10 at a local thrift store. This outfit allows me to work quickly and freely, even in low light, and the quality of the lens is unmatched in any MF line. With modern films and good technique, 35mm negatives can produce excellent black and white prints up to 11X14, larger with color film. I don't understand using a square format, unless one intends to print square. Otherwise, a 645 is more efficient, or a 6x7 with a rotating back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_welsh Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Portraits and closeups? The Mamiya RB and C330's have built in closeup capabiity built in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickboy666 Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Thank you all again for all these answers. I now have a good starting point. Hasselblad seems the one to buy, but i won't neglect your other suggestions. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt-photos Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Well Garrison, I still stay with my point of view about portraits, especially close-up portraits, in which Christophe is interested in. I guess you know what the close-up portraits with 50mm or shorter focal-length look like? Isn't the nose a bit out of proportion...? But anyway, I hope Christophe that you got the answers you were looking for. Good luck and I am looking forward seeing results of your portrait shootings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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