david_amberson1 Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I am so glad I own a 1D Mark III and use a weather sealed 70-200 f2.8 IS. Its great for shooting in the pooring rain with no worries or at the water park and being splashed...so what. But, how would this combo hold up in sea water? The same? Anyone out there know. Thought I'd ask before I tried it. I know you shouldnt completely submerge it in 6ft of water, but after a dusty dirt bike race, I just take it home. Put it in the sink(dry) and use the sprayer with low pressure and rinse it completely. I dry it real good. Use a can of air to blow out all the seams(low pressure) and then remove the lens and clean the lens seal and inspect. Its a beautifull thing. I've heard of pro NFL photogs that after a muddy game of being splashed will dunk theirs in a 5 gallon bucket of clean water and swoosh it around, then dry. Any thoughts. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn_cummings1 Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 You can't be serious about NFL photographers submerging thier cameras with lens attached in a bucket of water and swooshing it around! I don't care how weather sealed they are...they are not waterproof, only water-resistant. Go ahead and put it in for a dunk...let me know the outcome. Guaranteed it will become a very expensive conversation piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_g10 Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Yeah I wonder if it can stand the water dunk... does it become a toy camera ? :-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 "I am so glad I own a 1D Mark III and use a weather sealed 70-200 f2.8 IS. Its great for shooting in the pooring rain with no worries or at the water park and being splashed...so what." Who cares about the camera. After a day in driving rain I'd be worried about catching pneumonia and dying. I recall a poster at FM lamenting the death of his 1D II/70-200 L after a dunk in sea water. Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zml Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I've seen these cameras being sprayed on but I just clean my 1D3 with a damp cloth, scrape the sand and grime from nooks and crannies using a toothpick or cotton swab and that's it. But I have no qualms shooting in pouring rain with a weather-sealed lens. Oh, don't open the battery door in pouring rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher hartt dallas Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Sea water and the salty mist is horrible for any camera - weather sealed or not. While the weather sealing may slow down salt penetration to internal parts, it won't slow down the corrosive action of salt mist on external camera body. The weather sealing of Canon's bodies and lenses should not make you "fearless", common sense still applies. Maybe a better way to think about the weather sealing is that you can be somewhat less "fearful" of inclement weather and environmental conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I don`t have a 1DIII, but the gentle cycle works OK . . . most of the time. WW<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 OK OK OK I was only joking . . . just in case it was not obvious. I use a soft cloth, no air cans, a gentle hairdryer at a distance, if necessary, I would not `wash` or `dunk`. WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I would pad it with set a set of sheets for the spin cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay a. frew Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I would put the shutter on Bulb and see if I could find out where my other sock goes. Cheers! Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Putting a camera in a washing machine is ridiculous. Everyone knows that you should use the dishwasher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingell Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Four quarters in the dryer should do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_amberson1 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Share Posted July 16, 2008 I got to say, this was a great laugh if nothing else. William/Bob, you 2 made my night. The dishwasher and washing machine is priceless. William, did you stage that shot just for me or had you already used this before? Good stuff. About the NFL photogs. I've never tried it. I've never witnessed this. I'm not sure if they were NFL, but just Pro's who get splashed with heavy mud while working. I would never actually dunk mine. It cost too much money to chance. But a light spray in the sink to replicate a good rain has been fine. I've done it alot. It works great. Its hard to get that gritty sand out from behind the rear wheel any other way. It sounds horrible when you rotate it with all that behind it. The water spray cleans it out. Looks brand new when I am done. But absolutely NO high pressure. It cant be any worse than what you see on the sidelines at NFL games in the rain. Oh yeah, Micheal L., I read an article by SI where they said the only failures they had in a rainy Super Bowl was from photographers opening the memory card door and water running off their rain suits into the card compartment. Killed the cameras. Other than that, they worked flawlessly. But I have always wondered how it would hold up around salt water. Maybe if your on a boat and light spray hits it or on the beach. Would it be ok? From the sound of the posts, I'll just leave it indoors at the beach. No one buys my equipment for me so, I wont risk it. This was just a question brought on by all the DSLRs going in the ocean lately. All of these have been non weather sealed units. So for those of us who have sealed units, I was just curious how they would fair in sea water. NOT A DUNK. LOL :-) Just sprayed. The guy that was hit by the wave. If it had been a sealed unit, could he have cleaned it off and been ok. Or would it still eat the camera because of the corrosion. I would say if it were cleaned quickly you would be ok. Corrosion doesnt happen instantly. Its a process. And it doesnt corrode plastic. The 1D has a magnesium body, but lined with rubber and plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Have a look at the EXIF . . . I bloody took all of 5 minutes out of my day! Ran down stairs, threw the washing out of the machine, (brassieres and panties everywhere: NOT mine) Dried the machine out, threw in some white towels, and my 5D. Got my 20D, `borrowed` the kit lens from my Daughter`s 400D, set `P` Mode (that is for Professional, isn`t it?) The little Flashy thingy popped up. Turned the washing machine on . . . Took the photo on an angle so it looks like its kinda moving, shot machine gun and tried to rotate the camera to imply movement, bloody flashy thing does sorta work OK, sometimes. Turned the machine off, put the 5D in the dryer, because the spin cycle was broken. Posted the image to the thread . . . Then I find out I made a mistake . . . I should have used the DISHWASHER . . . *** Yes I staged it just for you (sigh). . . All of the above is true, except I really didn`t turn on the Washing Machine. I purposely chose to use P and the Kit Lens, to prove other points, maybe later . . . on another forum, Other than that, I think I broke my 5D with the stunt. . . the bloody flashy thing doesn`t work any more! WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebell Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Nice one William! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photo_dark Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Lol... that may have been the best picture posted here in a while. I always tie my camera to the top of my car and go through the carwash on my way home after a particularly muddy day. But seriously, i'll take a dusty exterior to a dead interior any day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_ferris Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I use my 1D and L series lenses around the sea and beaches constantly, surfing, diving, sailing etc. They have had many a "spray" with salt water. They do OK but you need to keep the outsides clean. I don't do lens changes if avoidable. The black coating on the 1D top plate and the White paint on the 300 and 70-200 are lifting though, if I don't fresh water clean the body I get corrosion, this can be neutralised with white vinegar. Works on the hinges on sunglasses too.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zml Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Yeah, the vinegar trick works very well.<br> I have a 300/2.8 IS (8 years old) so rusted through from salt water that I'm afraid the optical elements will fall out one of these days. Amazingly, the lens works well, produces awesome pics, even though it makes some infernal noises wile focusing and the IS "buzzes" a lot, and not even the 600 mm lens gets so many "curious" comments - passers by just can't believe their eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baivab Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 If you have a Canon 5D with L lens and happen to be in a beach, which has salty air blowing all around you, what type of precaution is recommended? Ask, as I know 5D is NOT weather-sealed. Also, let's not forget the sand particles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_amberson1 Posted July 16, 2008 Author Share Posted July 16, 2008 William, I have to say, your nuts. But a good laugh indeed. I like that "P" for professional. You know someone will come along in the thread are get all shitty with you and write, "P mode is a program mode where you can only set the ISO. Its for amatures. LOL I'll just stay away from salt water. I dont want to deal with Camera/Lens rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juans eye Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Saltwater is really nasty. If salt spray ever becomes a problem, and your camera is indeed weather resistant, a product called SaltX should help. A spray bottle with some SaltX solution should help you get rid of the salt. Regards, /bing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 > 5D with L lens and happen to be in a beach . . .as I know 5D is NOT weather-sealed. Also, let's not forget the sand particles < I use the simple approach: plastic garbage bags, elastic bands, tape. I have lots of ziplock bags too for the little bits and pieces. FYI: http://www.photo.net/canon-eos-digital-camera-forum/00Lasq WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 > William, I have to say, your nuts. < Very nicely put indeed, thank you: yeah, well it is the only way for me to stay sane in an house full of women (am I allowed to say that?). *** > "P mode is a program mode where you can only set the ISO. Its for amatures. < Yeah, I am waiting for that discussion too. . . there is friend here at photonet, who is passionate about that issue. It was she whom opened my eyes to the value of the P mode: and that awakening made me exploit its uses further. Have a great day WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher hartt dallas Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 William W - P for "Professional"...now that's world class photographer 'in-crowd' humor. I've been chuckling about that ever since I read it. It set my mind to working - would Av be "Average" and Tv be "Transvestite" photographer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 Thanks, I appreciate that comment. You really should not feed the monkey, though: I (supposedly) have work to do! `Average` and `Transvestite`: nice line of thought. Perhaps inspired by my brassieres and panties comment? . . . Oh this thread is so twisted, nice to see we all have a sense of humour! :) CU WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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