red_buckner Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I just took some shots with the current version of the 50mm Summicron 2.0. Flare! Diffuse flare coming fromopen sky. I thought the latest Summicron was flare-resistant. Yes, I was using the proper lens hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Are you sure that it's not just overexposure? Suggest that you post it and let us evaluate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_bellayr Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Flare: I had been shooting with SLRs for longer than I want to say. It is easier to see flare with SLRs but with rangefinders since you are not looking through the lens it is more difficult. I was shooting recently sunsets off the Baja Coast with a 35mm summicron. Nothing wrong with the summicron but with rangefinders you will not see the flare. At least that has been my experience. I am not an expert but I do not believe that any lens is flare resistent. The best bet with rangefinder lenses is to shoot a few extra shots. Try to keep the setting sun off to the side (?). The sun the bloody sun! It makes great sunsets but it is not easy to photography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowingsky Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Flare resistance is not the same as flare proof. Incremental differences in angles can produce markedly different results. If you get flare chronically in situations where you'd think you shouldn't, it might be a situation, but it would be about that lens, not likely the class of lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgh Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Keep the sun to your back and don't piss in the wind... The 4th version Summicron has a reputation for veiled flare problems. I know of one photographer that even sent his lens into Leic be be re-painted internally, it helped a bit I was told but still its not a flare-proof lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_stockdale2 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I have a Summicron of about 1982 (focusing tab, no built in hood) and I was amazed at how flare prone it was. Now I'm much more aware of what I can't do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Yes, the Summicron will flare. They flare progressively less with each newer version (I've had them all, and still do, except for the latest version, which I sold). I find that an especially flare-prone situation is when the sun is just out of the frame, and out of the finder (but only just). Of course, with the sun in the frame, even if mostly hidden behind a tree or something, then you get a star pattern, the result of reflections off the diaphragm leaves; as well as blotches of color. It is a fine lens, but not perfect in this regard! The 50mm Summilux is a good choice (mine is pre-ASPH) if flare-prone situations must be tamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjm photo Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Agree with Rob F. A few years ago I sold my then 6 months old new Summicron because of flare issues. I did keep my very late production collapsible Summicron as flare has yet to be an issue with it. My main 50mm now is the pre-APSH Summilux.....no flare issues with it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjm photo Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 ...make that pre-ASPH Summilux! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nee_sung Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 You need a hood that is the same length as the lens: 50mm. I had one custom made for the Elmarit 50/2.8, flare is very well controlled now. I got this valuable information from searching this forum. In general, the ideal hood is the same length as the focal length. This can obviously pose problems for long lenses such as the 560! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry_passaris Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 "Yes, I was using the proper lens hood". The current 50mm f2 'Cron has a built-in hood! Are you sure you are using the current version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david j.lee Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 good point Barry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mukul_dube Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Even with a hood, a filter -- no matter if it's the best available -- can add to flare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35mmdelux Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 a setting sun slightly to the right thru the trees flared my 50 pre-asph s-Lux. the sliding hood just too short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Off the point I know, but an advantage of an SLR is that a lot of the time you can see flare in the viewfinder and take suitable steps to avoid it. Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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