mikeseb Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Though I ordinarily use a Jobo ATL-1500, I'm doing a bit more hand processingthese days so I'm buying some tanks and reels. I'd be grateful for thecommunity's advice about stainless steel reels. I've always used the Patersonplastic ones, but I'd like to switch to stainless--I've never used them sothey're unfamiliar.<br/ ><br/ > Calumet sells the two above-referenced reels; the <ahref="http://www.calumetphoto.com/item/JB2340/">Jobo variety</a> (link to 35mmreel shown; note larger center core hole) are designed to go onto a plasticcenter column in Jobo 1500 series tanks. I had actually bought three of these afew years ago--ERRONEOUSLY, they don't work in my processor's 2500 seriestanks!--and still have them on hand, in their original boxes.<br/ ><br/ > Question is, will they work in a conventional s/s developing tank, like thosesold by Calumet and others? When I look at the pictures of the <ahref="http://www.calumetphoto.com/item/CP9060/">"Calumet Hewes"</a> reels thatare purposed for the Calumet tanks, the center hole for the fill column/lighttrap looks quite a bit smaller than that of the Jobo Hewes I own, which wouldsuggest that mine should fit. There are no specs listed, and it's tough to tellfrom the pictures. Can't even tell whether the two reel varieties have the sameoutside diameter.<br/ ><br/ > If anyone has experience with this gear, I'd appreciate your advice, with mythanks in advance.<br/ ><br/ > Mike Sebastian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_francis Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 I don't know the answer to your quesiton, and I don't know why they're called Calumet Hewes now (acquisition?) but Hewes does make the very best SS reels, for my money. All the SS reels I have ever bought have the same outside diameter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Standard stainless steel tanks, the Nikors, or the clones thereof, are 3-1/4 inches in diameter. I have a hunch your reels are larger than that. There were larger tanks that were 4-1/4 inches in diameter, but they are exceedingly scarce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeseb Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 Thanks Jim and John. My ignorance is profound. My guess is that Hewes has made a large quantity of these for Calumet and has co-branded them. I've read a lot about problems with cheaper reels, so I'd just as soon spend the extra $$ for the good stuff, rather than buying the cheap stuff multiple times. My tanks are indeed 3-1/4 inch diameter. As far as the center "axis" hole is concerned: does it really matter? Do steel tanks have a center column like Paterson tanks, that acts like a light trap; or is the light trap entirely in the lid? If the latter, then it won't make any difference what size the center hole is, I'd guess. Think I'd have figured this out by now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Steel tanks don't have a center column. Instead they have a complicated baffle system in the lid that allows fluids through but keeps light out. Note that Calumet's listing shares one photo for the 135, 120, and 220 reels. The reel standing on edge is the 135 (35mm) one. The one on the right is 120, which has the larger hole, the one on the left is the 220 one. The only negative to the 35mm Hewes reels is that due to the thicker wire used for the frame, they are a bit thicker than other brands. If you have a two-reel stainless tank (15 ounces) that's on the short side, it can be a very tight fit, the lid might not seal. Never a problem in the one reel (8 ounce) tanks. Also, looking at the Hewes reel for Jobo tanks, the pitch of the spiral is quite fine. Might be a bit harder to load, but shouldn't be too hard. Sacrifice a roll to learn to load them. A genuine Honeywell Nikor 35mm reel also works quite well. But it has to be genuine, and not bent. Not a sure-fire thing to find when buying them used. The cheap Chinese-made 35mm reels are pretty much useless, they come bent from the factory. Quality was never part of the "Five Year Plans", command economies learned to produce junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonio_a.1 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Basically you can get Hews reels in two varieties: regular and jobo. The jobo ones, as you have pointed out, have a larger hole in the centre to accommodate the shaft you use in jobo tanks, the regular ones dont use this and will fit standard stainless steel tanks. The calument hewes reels just look like regular Hewes reels to me, probably sold under some joint branding/marketing arrangement like many supermarkets have with producers. I use the regular Hewes reels in 120 size in a stainless steel tank and they are far and away the best reels I have ever used. They are worth the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devtank.com Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Hi Mike, You are the lucky owner of Jobo reels -these are lovely standard sized reels, possibly the finest heavy duty professional reels. These reels will fit into standard sized tanks made by Kindemann, Kalt, Arista, Samigon etc They are the same outer dimensions of the Hewes or "Calumet Hewes" reels. These Calumet reels are the exact same as the non "Calumet" reels. 99% of steel reels are the same size and specification. If you ever decide you dont want those Jobo reels let me know! They are the easiest to load in my opinion (other than the plastic Jobo 2500 series ones). Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_richardson Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 <p>I know this is a year later, but I just found this in google and wanted to comment. I agree with Joe! My first stainless steel reels were the Jobo ones that I bought more or less by accident. I wanted stainless steel reels and that is what the store had. They are easier to load than even regular Hewes reels...I like the orientation of the catch the holds the film...it allows you to slide the film in to the base more easily. Also, the hole in the center gives you a very easy place to get a finger onto so that you can easily pull the rolls out of the tank without center lift or dumping out all the chemistry...I find that useful for pulling one roll out of photo flo at a time, to put them up to dry. Anyway, I just like the jobo version and think they are the best designed. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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