peter_cofran Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Can someone help me understand color settings in Photoshop. My images look muchlighter and warmer when I edit them than when I export them using Save for Web. I also know that the lighter and warmer is wrong, because when I create aneutral gray color in photoshop it looks too warm. If it was a mis calibratedmonitor it would look warm all of the time. I'm using Photoshop CS3, my color profile is sRGB with color management turnedoff. Although I tried changing these settings and they don't seem to make adifference. Here's neutral gray image with screen caps in photoshop and in thesave for web dialog box. <imgsrc="http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a317/pcofran/test/photoshop-color.jpg" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_mounier Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 In Photoshop (CS2) Color Settings you need to turn Color Management on. It's in the printer dialog box that you want it off. So turn it on and set your working space to sRGB. Set your Color Management Policies to convert to working space, but it's safest to check the boxes that asks you about missing profiles and profile mismatches so you'll be assured that you're always working in the space you intend to be in. I use the Adobe conversion engine, I use the Relative intent, and have black point compensation checked. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_cofran Posted February 23, 2008 Author Share Posted February 23, 2008 Ok so I turned on color management, and set my profile to sRGB, but it's still doing the same thing. I created a new document in sRGB, filled it with neutral gray and did a save for web and the workspace is still too warm. here's a screen cap of what i'm seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_mounier Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Usually it says so if it's necessary, but did you shut photoshop down and restart it? It might make a difference when you change preferences. Otherwise, I'm at a loss. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_cofran Posted February 23, 2008 Author Share Posted February 23, 2008 i just restarted my computer and photoshop with no success. i'm going to install photoshop on another computer and see how it looks. if there is a difference, i'll reinstall on my own. i appreciate your help, troubleshooting these things are never easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 If your web browser isn't color managed (only something like two are), they are not going to match an ICC aware application like Photoshop. http://www.color.org/version4html.xalter Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_cofran Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 I solved it! It was the monitor profile. When I went into My Computer > Control panel > Display > Settings > Advance > Color Management. Grrr they really buried the monitor profile setting. Switched it to sRGB and it fixed it! Dam such a little thing can make a big difference. All this time I thought the setting would be in Photoshop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutz Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Hi, I'd like to second Peter Cofran's observations. My screen is calibrated, all CS2 settings are like per Peter Mounier's recommendations. And still, when saving for web through ImageReady the color rendition is totally distorted. The image is lacking green, yellow and saturation. Unless... I set the "view">"preview" in IR to "embedded color profile". But... this would not have any effect on the saved image when viewed in either CS2 or any browser. So, where's the flaw? Thanks for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutz Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Hmm, last posts crossed. I'm working on a Mac, so the above mentioned "cure" won't help me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_cofran Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 The cure exists in the mac. Just your monitor preferences are in a different location. This article should help you out. http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps10_colour/ps10_1.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutz Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Thanks, Peter. I'll dig my way through that and report. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 >Switched it to sRGB and it fixed it! Dam such a little thing can make a big difference. All this time I thought the setting would be in Photoshop. No, that didn't fix it! You are not supposed to select sRGB as the definition for your display, you are supposed to pick the display profile. The two previews don't match because the browser isn't color managed as I told you. Picking sRGB for your display profile just sets up a big fat lie for PHotoshop (telling it that the display profile is sRGB). Its not sRGB. Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lookingbill Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Andrew, Doesn't this look like a corrupt profile issue? His neutrals in Photoshop shouldn't be reddish as indicated in the original post. I mean this is an old issue that's been going on for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Its possible the display profile sucks yes. But setting sRGB isn't the solution. Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lookingbill Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 So then Peter needs to recalibrate using a hardware calibrator making sure Adobe Gamma Loader isn't installed in the startup folder. And no using or selecting canned factory display profiles which can also be corrupt. And make sure your video driver is up to date. There, I think I covered it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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