autismkid Posted February 9, 2008 Author Share Posted February 9, 2008 Eugene, > One, how are you, then, saying above you're not sure SP is the kind of photography you want to do? -- SP is as full of stale air as film noir. Well, i guess that's where it shows my naiveness in photography. > Two, a composition and an allusion to simple life with an exclusion of contemporary elements (what you see in many of HCB's photos) does not a good photo make. I have to disagree. There really isn't a single clear definition of good photo. You can argue the same from opposite side. Why can't a photo be considered good just because it is visually pleasing. Of course you can say, then why don't you just go shoot landscape. Well, the difference is that, in some of HCB's work, such visual harmony is captured in our daily environment. If we go to the other extreme, a journalism style photo that contains plenty contemporary social context, but not any aesthetic merit, is hardly a good photo either. It just happens to be at the right place at the right time. And that's why I can't appreciate some of HCB's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene_scherba Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 <p>> <i>Why can't a photo be considered good just because it is visually pleasing? </i></p> <p>Because a photo is not a woman.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene_scherba Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 <p>> <i>So where's yours?</i></p> <p><a href="http://eugenescherba.com/design2/">Right here</a>. Now, can we please put this discussion, as well as the discussion around my age, to an end?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autismkid Posted February 9, 2008 Author Share Posted February 9, 2008 > Because a photo is not a woman. And who said that. In spanish, we have "la fotographí¡¢. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autismkid Posted February 9, 2008 Author Share Posted February 9, 2008 oops, "la fotografí¡¢. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 maybe they'll re-name the intro on the S&D forum front page: Feisty bunch of middle aged photographers wondering why 5000 images won't automatically give them a ticket to the mainstream art establishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene_scherba Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Right on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 So, again Eugene, why do you think Orville's is not worth visiting? Looks superior to me, and worthy of viewing by anyone at any level. A ton of great and interesting work... www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 >>> ... wondering why 5000 images won't automatically give them a ticket to the mainstream art establishment. Specifically, who's wondering??? www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 i don't think anybody is wondering, Brad. just trying to lighten things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Hey Eric, glad to see you back... www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 cheers to you too, Brad. I wouldn't say "back" though. an old PN thread with auto updates came in the other day and the next thing I know..i'm back up to 20 a day :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene_scherba Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 <p>> <i>So, again Eugene, why do you think Orville's is not worth visiting?</i></p> <p>It's the cutesy Macintosh buttons that turn me off. And I'm a Mac user at that!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 and remember Balaji? Geez, talk about putting stellar work up on a consistent basis. Someone said further up here that if HCB was shooting today, he'd be mediocre (or something to that effect. Especially around Balaji and some of the other regulars here), and I agree, always have done, never got the attraction myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_m_johnson Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Many talented photographers grace this forum. Eugene, Orville has done all the things in the art world that you deem important, you really are one uninformed lad... http://www.newyorkstreetphotography.com/Orville_Robertson_Web_Site/Resume.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene_scherba Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 <p><i>Orville has done all the things in the art world that you deem important, you really are one uninformed lad...</i></p> <p>You'd think someone with that CV would refrain being a walking Apple ad with a bad taste at that.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_m_johnson Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 <div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene_scherba Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Second, his only recent accomplishment (other than group shows, which are irrelevant in most gallerists' view) is a show in <a href="http://hobokenalmanac.com/">Hoboken Almanac Gallery</a>, which is really not that great of a gallery judging from its website. Third, having images in a library/local photography museum collection really doesn't mean much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_m_johnson Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Eugene, I have literally been using a Mac since before you were born. But I suppose you can still teach us all a few things about (fill in the blank). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_m_johnson Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Sorry if I ended up using the net in conjunction with my photography Eugene! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 "Many talented photographers grace this forum." indeed. Robert, not to fret mate, you're one of the "some of the other regulars here" in my books. It's a treat having your older scanned film material ("American Bank") posted here, and glimpsing into an age & era & environment I'm not familiar with. great cv, Orville. I'm embarrassed i haven't ventured that far and seen it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Eugene, why don't you comment on his photos. Rather than buttons, and your opinions of his accomplishments. Your comments and criticism suggest an air superiority - unfortunately it's not in concert with what I see on your site. You really are coming off as a very bitter person. www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene_scherba Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 If you want, for a comparison, see an impressive CV, <a href="http://www.artnet.com/artist/16647/wolfgang-tillmans.html">here is an example</a>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene_scherba Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 <p><i>Eugene, why don't you comment on his photos.</i></p> <p>Because you won't like what I'll say.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akochanowski Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I still think Eugene's original post has a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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