darius.tulbure Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I know I have a bad reputation of a big complainer. Especially Josh knows that.However, as a photo.net member I care about the community, as a photographer Icare about the photos, and as a marketer, I have ideas that might work. Simply put, I complain because I care, as the marketing guru Seth Godin says: http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2008/01/customers-that.html What he basically says is that any business in order to be remarkable needs tohave something special to offer and a story. Now think about PN's values in2004, and sincerely think about them now. Think about the photographers PN hadas members and think about them now. And - this will hurt - at the reasons somemembers packed and went away. Something changed, obviously. Is it something good? Biggest isn't best. It's the story and the service that matters. P.S. Where do you see photo.net 5 years from now? Sub-question: What happens if in three years some bigger and more popularphotography website emerges on Internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mharris Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I need some Jiffy Pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRX94 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 no snacks between meals or you'll get fatty Michael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwrtertbsratbs5 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 This is not a good trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshroot Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 What's your question Darius? Are you trying to ask what I see photo.net doing in 5 years? Or are you just trying to make my day start out as cheery as possible? I have busted my butt for the past year now to get the wheels turning on improvements for the site. The results of my efforts are finally starting to show and we have seen more fixes, changes, and additions in the past 6 months than we had in the previous 2 years. You want to complain about the past? Then by all means, do so. But vague complaints about how things were "better a few years ago" are as unhelpful as they are pointless. At least have something concrete to say about what you want to see from the site that you aren't seeing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photobiscuits Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 yeah what are you talking about Darius? What are the problems you are referring to? What are your ideas that might work?<br> I like photonet as it is and now that I've gone through a sufficient evaluation time I'm even thinking of becomming a paid member. I'm interested in what you have to suggest that can make it even better. What is this something special that you think photonet should offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darius.tulbure Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 Nevermind, Josh. You might as well delete my post. I don't mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Darius - I believe you've turned complaing into a new art form! "What happens if in three years some bigger and more popular photography website emerges on Internet?" - Then they'll get the traffic that they deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darius.tulbure Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 Bob, I'm a complainer, but I'm far off complaining right now. People, read between the lines... I was trying to make a point, but obviously I failed to. Now, I'm getting back to my own work... Sorry for the intermission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photobiscuits Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 bah! read between the lines indeed! is this how you work as a marketer? "hey, everybody, I have ideas that might work! Guess what they are 'cause I'm not telling!" come out and say what you have to say darnitt!<p> cool gallery though i will have to stop by for another visit when i have time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJT Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Darius, as one who has been hanging around here for a few years I understand where you are coming from, but you are making a mistake in the way that you are presenting your ideas. Josh is willing to listen to people who care about this site, perhaps considerably more so than past moderators in his position. If you have some good ideas, lucidly write them down and put them in an email. Send it to contact@photo.net (as Josh requested in past threads). Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darius.tulbure Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 Sorry Mike, the read between the lines thing wasn't addressed at you. I can show you some ideas, but not here, in this forum thread (where initially I planned to) because it seems I have made a terrible mistake by even opening it. I care. Or... I used to care. Now I just feel foolish. After all, what's my interest in all this? Why PN's problems have to be mine? Everybody with his/her own business, right? Walter, believe me, I have presented lots of ideas, but of course none of them was any good for them. Maybe they aren't good for anybody... However, right now I feel very unconfortable because some people will think I am some smart ass wanting to show off. But actually I'm not. I just wanted to help. But everytime I touched this subject, the others' reactions made me feel foolish. Why the hack do I care about these things after all? No, thank you! I will just shut up, and everybody will be happy. Post some pictures maybe. But that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photobiscuits Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Ah well, if you're serious in that you have ideas maybe it would be better to present them as Walter said in an email to contact@photo.net and avoid the uncomfortable public comments. And sorry, didn't intend to make you feel uncomfortable.<br> Also, lots of people have good ideas and often they are ignored or passed aside. Just because you or me or anybody present ideas doesn't mean they will or have to be acted on.<br> good luck in your quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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