brettarthur Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 I am need to create an HDR image from a single shot. The reason it is from asingle shot is because there is people in the photo. I have tried to createthree different images from and then merge to HDR by having them set to EV -2.0,metered EV and EV +2.0. Any suggestions or techniques I could use? Brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denisgermain Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 HDR requires different exposures in Photoshop. Your best bet is to use a tone mapping filter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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obakesan Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Hi so far I've tried importing the RAW file with over and under and combining in layers, but the results didn't seem to be substantially different to what I get using curves on the same image. so I think to take advantage of this technique you need to have a wide dynamic range (like exceeding the capture) and 2 images. given the range that can be had with a DSLR, as long as you're not blowing any of the channels (rg or b) in the RAW there is surprisingly large amounts of leeway in there. IFF a channel appears to be blown, try fiddling with the colour space you're importing into (ProPhoto seems to solve my problems that occur when using sRGB as the destination space) and if only one channel is blowing then sometimes I can adjust the colour temp on import and bring that channel back. naturally you'll need to then correct back in your editor, but at least you didn't wipe out data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydem Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 you will NOT create an HDR image from a single shot. even if you open it in a converter and develop it at 3 different exposures. the reason is that the original image does not have the large dynamic range to make an HDR. what you will end up with is a regular image that has been processed by hdr software. if that is what you want, fine, but it will not be an HDR final image. to get and HDR final image you have to take the scene at diffeent exposures using shutter speed changes and the scene itself has to have a large dynamic range. this can be checked before the shots by using a spotmeter on the lightest and darkest areas to actually find out the dynamic range. for best results you should be looking at a range of 10stops or more. note finding a scene that actually has this 10stop range is harder than most people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emre Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 HDR stands for HIGH dynamic range--as in, higher than what you can capture. That is the point of the merge-to-HDR step. Unfortunately, you only see the result after the second step, which is tone mapping, and everyone equates it to "HDR" :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettarthur Posted December 14, 2007 Author Share Posted December 14, 2007 i got ya. there is a photographer that does something he calls, "manual hdr" on his portraits. his site is <a a href="http://www.joeyl.com">www.joeyl.com</a>. go to commercial photography, then bands/musicians and look through some of the ones outside with the sky looking amazing. i think it's the band silverstein and also the ones of every time i die, they are dressed up like medieval characters or something with swords. i know it's not true HDR, its a fake "HDR" or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 You can't get an HDR-merge image from a single raw file. You can, however, use multiple adjustment layers with layer masks. In fact, masking works better with multiple image combinations than HDR-merge, and is more consistent than manual dodging and burning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene_scherba Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Can we have a "how to achieve this silly and overly cliched look" category on this forum, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 HDR and HDR-like images are rare compared to sunsets and puppies. If you don't like it, ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopo_brembati Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 HDR try to compress the original image high tonal range into a LDR image. <br> If the original dynamic range exceeds the dynamic range of the camera, yes in that case a single shot can't be used to capture all the dynamic of the scene. <br> But if the scene contrast is not so high, a single raw shot,developed at different exposure level, may be enough. <br> Have a look <a href="http://www.photoresampling.com/hdr_eng.php"> here</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lookingbill Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 My understanding of true HDR is to show more detail in brightly or darkly lit scenes that doesn't come about through normal processing while retaining the normal look of the scene. This I believe this can be achieved in RAW in one shot by exposing to the right as close to clipping highlites as much as possible. The 35mm negative below shows the kind of curve required to coax more detail out of a scanner induced overexposed scene.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene_scherba Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 <p><i>HDR and HDR-like images are rare compared to sunsets and puppies.</i></p> <p>My standards of rare are a bit higher than "less common than sunsets and puppies."</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopo_brembati Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Brett, <br> the photos at the link are not HDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 [[My standards of rare are a bit higher than "less common than sunsets and puppies."]] Apparently your standards are "if I don't like it, it shouldn't be allowed to exist" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_Lookingbill Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Has anyone checked out at the bottom this site's use of HDR? There's now a manual on the subject. </p> <p> Apparantly it was an ancient Hollywood secret in the rendering of movie negatives for theatrical release. Sadly, from all the second rate prints I've been forced to watch on TV and in theatres starting as far back as the '60's, I never knew or saw the advantage of the "secret" until I saw the restored and remastered versions on cable channel TCM. My local theatre still shows crap prints of new released movies. </p> <p> <a href="http://www.hdrlabs.com/book/index.html">The HDRI HandBook</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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