jay_huse Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 I am looking for the lightest weight SLR camera for when I go running. I want something super cheap as well that will give good results. I am afraid of droping my DSLR gear and my Nikon N80 seems too heavy. I have a few P&S but the lure of 35mm seems to be a good idea for more marketable photos. I am curious if the Nikon EM camera has mirror slap problems in giving users sharp photos ? Ken Rockwell kind of hammered this camera saying he would not use it for day photography because of this reason. Have you folks noticed any problems ? I also like the idea of a fully manual camera if I decide to go on hiking trip something very small and light with notihing to go wrong. Your thoughts Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamin scott Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 Sounds like maybe a Rangefinder would fit your requirements better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael R Freeman Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 If you are looking for a lightweight "disposable" Nikon film SLR, you might consider the FG over the EM (or FG-20). It has the same form factor and can be had cheaply, but allows for considerably more utility with manual and program exposure modes in addition to the aperture priority of the EM. IMO the worst of the mirror slap in the EM/FG/FG-20 series occurs at the end of the mirror return motion, i.e. AFTER the exposure has already been completed. I didn't find the mirror UP slap to be any worse than any other lightweight SLR I have used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_huse Posted June 24, 2007 Author Share Posted June 24, 2007 So are you saying the mirror slap is not a problem as stated ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael R Freeman Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 *I* didn't find it to be a problem for typical handheld shots with short lenses (i.e. the type you would take while running). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael R Freeman Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 BTW, any EM or FG that you buy today WILL need the mirror foam and light seal foam replaced unless it has had recent maintenance. It's not a very difficult job, but it's something to keep in mind when considering these older 80's era bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtwhite Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 I haven't had mirror slap problems with my EM, but I don't often use it. It lacks full control over shutter speeds which is a dealbreaker for me. You're stuck with either aperture priority or 1/90th. If you're looking for lightweight, why not an F55 or F65? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildwoodgallery Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 You do feel a shake when you take photo with the EM but the picture must already have been taken. I couldn't see any problems with the photos. The EM do have a big problem with the meter coming on. I won't get another one. Why not get an FE or FM? Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edsel_adams Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 The EM is slightly limited with it's aperture priority metering only. But it works just fine within these limits. I have shot with an EM for years when I needed a light weight body. And the results are the same as my other NIKON bodies. Untill digital, photography was always about the lens, not the camera. Ken Rockwell is a dope, and wouldn't know a good camera from a shoe box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjoseph7 Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 I would purchase an FM2 or an FE2. They are pretty small and so are the lenses. An 85mm manual lens is about half the size of the 85mm AF lens. Of course there is no auto focusing. Olympus also makes some very small manual cameras and lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breogan_gomez Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 <p>The FM2 is rugged and made to resist. With a 50mm f/1.8 AIS weights around 800gr./1.7lb. That is a nice combo that I've used for years when I go hiking (mainly because it was the only lens I've had, ;-P) <p>D40x and a 50mm f/1.8 AF would weight about the same and give excelent pictures. The 50mm/1.8AF is double size than the AIS version but it weights about the same (AF is plastic made and AIS is metal). The D40x with 50mm/1.8 is a pretty compact combo too, the D40x body is narrower than the FM2 but is deeper and taller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breogan_gomez Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 <p>Sorry, since money could be a factor, consider de D40 with a 50mm/1.8 instead of the D40x. I haven't tried the D40 (only D40x) but many reviers stated that picture quality is very good (with a good lens, of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawz Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 I've shot extensively with EM's over the years. Never had an issue with mirror slap unless I'm down around 1/30th. Ken Rockwell is a fount of stupidity with occasional gems. His opinion on the EM is not one of the gems. The EM is a great little camera for when you you want light & small. Gonna have to get myself another one (mine was recently stolen) and a 45/2.8P to go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher_tidy Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 The EM was my first serious camera. It's really not bad, although if you're used to having a camera with manual mode, you may find it a bit limiting. I took some great pictures with my EM. I never noticed the mirror slap problem you mention. Best wishes, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w._ditto__iii Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 no mirror problems, neat camera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas_green1 Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 I agree, the mirror issue is not significant, but IMHO, the FG is a MUCH more versatile camera for only a few dollars more. Nowadays, a working EM body should only run around $20, but an FG should cost less than $50 as well, and anyone who's serious about their photography would undoubtedly appreciate the added features for user control in the FG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_mareno Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 You might want to get a N80 (ok, I am late posting this, but better late than never). Quietest shutter I have found on an SLR. The EM just doesn't have enough features to use effectively. I used to think Ken Rockwell was a dope, but now realize he is god (a lesser one, but still a god). He goes out on a limb on a lot of subjects, but generally he knows exactly what he is talking about. It is good to have someone like him around, as internet photography is soooo full of anal types hung up on lens charts and their own little opinions. And that's all it is... his opinions. In the words of Aaron Neville, he tells it like it is. This upsets some people. Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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